Mr. Worley.

he owned down there. We just made a frequent call, or Just stopped in there to see if there was any trouble or anything, and then went on.
I met him one night, and I had seen him when I was in there. But those places are kind of dimly lit and you don't see too much in them, and really and truly, I didn't pay too much attention to meeting him anyway.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you recall if any time after the armored car arrived any automobile came in or out of the basement area after the armored car arrived ?

Mr. Worley.

No; I don't believe so. I don't believe a car came down the ramp after that armored car was backed in there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see any cars drive out of the basement after the armored car came down?

Mr. Worley.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you see any television cameras in any area of the basement after the armored car arrived ?

Mr. Worley.

There were television cameras in the basement before that armored car arrived.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. As you walked up the Commerce Street ramp, where did you see television cameras ?

Mr. Worley.

When I was assigned to the basement, in these first two stalls right here, they were putting these cameras up right behind. There is a rail that runs right along there.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you mark the spot where the TV cameras were? Why don't you put a box ?

Mr. Worley.

Two cameras. Two or three. There was so much confusion down there that day.

Mr. Griffin.

When you walked Out to go up the Commerce Street ramp, do you recall what television cameras you saw?

Mr. Worley.

Down in the basement?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Worley.

These two cameras that were here, that had been there all the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall seeing any other TV cameras as you walked out? Did you see any up here by the armored car?

Mr. Worley.

I don't recall of seeing any.

Mr. Griffin.

All right, did you see any down on the ramp or in the garage area, or up on this ramp?

Mr. Worley.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Now you indicate in here that, in your letter or statement of November 30, that you saw from your position a man jump over the railing, saw a man come down the north ramp, which would be the Main Street ramp,

and jump over the railing in the parking area, is that right?

Mr. Worley.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How long was that before you left the basement, would you say?

Mr. Worley.

Hour or hour and a half.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have any thought that that man was Jack Ruby?

Mr. Worley.

It wasn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, between the time I notice this is the second report, letter--that was you got this letter of November 30?

Mr. Worley.

Yes; I was interviewed by these two special service officers, and they took this statement.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you come to describe that man? How did that come about? Did they ask you if you saw anybody jump over a railing, or anything like that ?

Mr. Worley.

Yes; they did.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, prior to the time that you prepared this letter of November 30, had you talked with anybody about having seen this man jump over the railing?

Mr. Worley.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

I want you to think carefully. After the time, did you hear