(Testimony of Chief Jesse E. Curry)
Mr. Curry.
the best thing to do was to set up our security down there and bring Oswald down there and transfer him on to the county jail.
I went on up to the office and Chief Batchelor and Chief Stevenson, I think, remained in the basement a while and Captain Talbert was down there.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you delegate to any specific person the security of Oswald?
Mr. Curry.
No, sir; I could see that he was being taken care of by the captain on duty, Captain Talbert, and Lieutenant Wiggins was assisting in it, so I didn't see any need to particularly call some officer over there and say, "Look, you are in charge of this security in this basement." It was being taken care of, I could see.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, for the record, will you tell us what you saw that satisfied you that it was being taken care of ?
Mr. Curry.
Officers were being stationed at the strategic points in the basement to screen people coming in, and they were moving out the vehicles as I asked them to, so I went on upstairs and I told Chief Batchelor and Chief Stevenson that we should clean out everything in the basement and screen everything that came back in.
Mr. Hubert.
When you ordered everything to be "screened" did you give any specific instructions?
Mr. Curry.
No; I didn't.
Mr. Hubert.
Or does that term have any significance in police work ?
Mr. Curry.
Well, it means to satisfy yourself that they were people who had a legitimate reason to be there when you screen them.
Mr. Hubert.
In other words, within the organization of the police department, the word "screening" is understood so that you were .satisfied that there would not be people there who were not supposed to be there?
Mr. Curry.
Any unauthorized people.
Mr. Hubert.
Just one more point on that--under the system, who would be considered as unauthorized persons?
Mr. Curry.
I think I specifically stated that only newspaper reporters or police officers would-be allowed in the basement.
Mr. Hubert.
Only the news media?
Mr. Curry.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Television people would be included, too?
Mr. Curry.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Was there any discussion of the route to be taken?
Mr. Curry.
Not at that time.
Mr. Hubert.
All right; let's go ahead.
Mr. Curry.
Then, I went on upstairs and a little while later I went to Fritz' office and they were interrogating him-- they--there were several people in there, some I recognized as FBI agents, some were Secret Service agents, some were Dallas detectives, and Captain Fritz was talking to Oswald at the time, I believe, and I stood around a few moments and when there was a lull in the interrogation, I asked Captain Fritz if he was about ready to transfer Oswald and he said, "Well, no; they were still talking to him," so I left the room.
Mr. Hubert.
That was about what time?
Mr. Curry.
As I recall, it was probably 10:30, but I didn't care when they transferred him at all. It didn't make any difference to me. The arrangements bad been made to transfer him and then when it was brought
Mr. Hubert.
What arrangements had been made?
Mr. Curry.
That we would transfer him to the sheriff, but at that time we did not have any armored cars down there. We were just at that time, I believe it was--understood that we would just put him in the car and drive him down there. Someone asked me if I had heard of the threats that had been made against him, and I had. They had called me at home about it, and I called Sheriff Decker, I think, from Fritz' office, and when Fritz said they were ready to transfer the man, and this is something after 11 o'clock--probably a little after 11, and Decker said, "Okay, bring him on," and at that time I said, "I thought you were coming after him."
Decker said, "Either way, I'll come after him' or you can bring him to me," and I thought since we had so much involved here, we were the ones that were
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