Mr. Newman.

him and I think I did it right there on the spot. It was a very vague-type thing. When I say statement, I am talking about the statement that I did sign the following Sunday, where they had this information that I had given them typed in the form of a statement.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, in this statement you indicated that you saw Lieutenant Stuets and Lieutenant Crowey--Sergeant Crowey, of the reserves in the same area you were in?

Mr. Newman.

I saw them that morning. They were not in the same area that I was in. I had seen them in the basement that morning. I don't have any idea where they were at the time. I happen to know now where Sergeant Crowey was, but I found-that out later.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you see Sergeant Crowey in the basement that morning?

Mr. Newman.

That I don't remember. It was sometime before the--

Mr. Griffin.

What do you mean by this statement in here that, "Names of other officers in the same area that I can't recollect." What do you mean by the same area ?

Mr. Newman.

By the same area there I meant the basement proper.

Mr. Griffin.

Where in the basement do you remember seeing him?

Mr. Newman.

I don't recall.

Mr. Griffin.

Sergeant Crowey?

Mr. Newman.

I don't recall any specific area.

Mr. Griffin.

Where in the basement area did you recall seeing Stuets? Now, is Lieutenant Stuets or Sergeant Crowey, either one of them, this regular officer that you have got marked here with an "X"?

Mr. Newman.

No; I know that.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, as far as that is concerned, then, you saw many officers in here who you would remember, whose names you would remember?

Mr. Newman.

No. The way I took that question and the way I answered it, those are the only two officers I saw that morning in the basement whose names I did remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Did they help you search the basement?

Mr. Newman.

I don't believe so. They have been searching in another area, but they weren't right with me.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Captain Arnett that day ?

Mr. Newman.

Let me try to--I know he was there, but I don't think I saw him. I may have seen him after the shooting. There was so much confusion then that I wasn't paying too much attention to who I was seeing.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know of an officer on the police force named Blackie Harrison?

Mr. Newman.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize Chief Batchelor when you see him?

Mr. Newman.

I don't think I would. I have only seen the gentleman one time.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize Captain Butler when you see him?

Mr. Newman.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize Captain Jones when you see him?

Mr. Newman.

No; I don't know him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize Officer Lowery when you see him?

Mr. Newman.

I don't know him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know any of the officers in the juvenile bureau ?

Mr. Newman.

I would know one if I saw him. I don't know him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know Detective Miller in the juvenile bureau?

Mr. Newman.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you recognize the name of this guy in the Juvenile bureau, if I gave you his name?

Mr. Newman.

No; as far as I know, I have never heard it. I have only been in there, I think, twice.
( Pause. ) -

Mr. Griffin.

You are a d--- 1---. I want you to come back tomorrow night and I want you I want to question you some more.