Mr. Griffin.

Alone?

Mr. Miller.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, on Sunday, do you recall whether you drove in alone or with somebody else?

Mr. Miller.

I don't recall driving in at all that day, as far as that goes, but I am sure that I did, and I am sure I drove alone.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall what you did in the early morning when you got to work on that Sunday?

Mr. Miller.

Nothing definite, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, did you report up to the third floor to the juvenile bureau?

Mr. Miller.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall what you did when you got to the juvenile bureau?

Mr. Miller.

No, sir; nothing definite.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it that you have some indefinite ideas of what happened up there?

Mr. Miller.

Well, I can tell you what I usually do when I come up.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, was this a usual day?

Mr. Miller.

As far as I was concerned, in my business, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember the people who were on duty up there on Sunday morning?

Mr. Miller.

It's see. Detective Goolsby, Detective Cutchshaw, [spelling] C-u-t---I believe he spells his name [spelling] C-u-t-c-h-a-w. I am not sure about that spelling. Detective Lowery.

Mr. Griffin.

Anybody else?

Mr. Miller.

Cutchshaw, Lowery, Officer J. W. Harrison.

Mr. Griffin.

Is that "Blackie" Harrison?

Mr. Miller.

Yes; and Policewoman McLine [spelling] M-c-L-i-n-e.

Mr. Griffin.

Is Policewoman McLine attached to the Juvenile bureau?

Mr. Miller.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

The people that you have listed, is that the full staff of people who are on duty regularly at that time or are there other people also ordinarily who would be on duty?

Mr. Miller.

No; who is on duty would depend on the days off.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember if there were any other people, whose names you might not recall, who were also on duty in the juvenile bureau that day?

Mr. Miller.

Captain Martin that day, the best that I remember.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Did you see him up in the juvenile bureau?

Mr. Miller.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Anybody else that you can think of?

Mr. Miller.

No; that I can think of.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you got up to the juvenile bureau that morning, did you talk to any of these people?

Mr. Miller.

I am sure I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Who did you talk to up there ?

Mr. Miller.

I probably talked to everybody that was there.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. When you arrived, were there television cameras on the third floor hallway?

Mr. Miller.

The best that I remember, there were.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall whether or not those TV cameras were manned?

Mr. Miller.

I don't remember definitely whether they were or not, but I don't believe so.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Can you give us some sort of idea of how crowded the hallways, that hallway was, when you arrived for work in the morning?

Mr. Miller.

It wasn't crowded at all when I arrived at work.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, had you been there before when it was more crowded than that?

Mr. Miller.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Directing your attention to Saturday, can you give us a description of what the status of that hallway was on Saturday?

Mr. Miller.

I don't remember any definite time or whether it was Saturday, but I had been in the hallway when it was almost impassable.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you in the police department on Friday at all?