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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 279« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Capt. Frank M, Martin)

Mr. Hubert.
5058 and 5059. I now ask you if those documents represent the truth, or whether there are any modifications or deletions or additions.
Captain MARTIN. Well, of course, there
Mr. Hubert.
That you would like to make in it?
Captain MARTIN. This "Miller," they have there once, where it should be my name in the first paragraph.
Mr. Hubert.
I think you are speaking of the third line, the first page of Exhibit 5059, where the second sentence starts, "Capt. Miller," and apparently the sense of it would be, that since they are speaking of you, it would be "Capt. Martin," is that right?
Captain MARTIN. That's right.
Mr. Hubert.
I am, therefore, going to circle the word "Miller," and--with a circle, and an extension line indicates that it had been changed by putting my initial on it, and I am going to ask you at a later time to put your initials on it, too.
Captain MARTIN. All right.
Mr. Hubert.
Other than that, that document speaks the truth, as far as you know?
Captain MARTIN. Yes. There is one area in there in the ramps that I don't quite understand. Did he mean the ramp, or does he mean the door into the building, the corridor door or--
Mr. Hubert.
Now, then, I think you are speaking of the second to the last sentence in the last paragraph on the first page of Exhibit 5059, sentence which reads as follows, to wit: "He advised that auxiliary officers were stationed at each ramp."
Captain MARTIN. Right.
Mr. Hubert.
"And that to his north, this was the only entrance to the compound which Ruby could have used." Now, what is it that you would like to say about that, sir?
Captain MARTIN. There is a double door going into this basement at the city hall which I wouldn't consider a ramp. They never considered it that. I don't know, but it is more or less a corridor, or hallway going into the basement.
Mr. Hubert.
There is a corridor, you say, that leads from the jail building into the basement area ?
Captain MARTIN. It is from the garage area into the basement.
Mr. Hubert.
I see.
Captain MARTIN. I don't know
Mr. Hubert.
Well, now, did you make any statement to them about auxiliary officers being stationed at any place?
Captain MARTIN. Yes. Yes; I told them that there were, but I meant the two ramps coming into the basement from the outside.
Mr. Hubert.
I see. In other words, what you want to clarify about this is that what you meant when you made reference to auxiliary officers and ramps, that you meant the entrances or exits at the street level of the Main and Commerce ramps?
Captain MARTIN. That's right.
Mr. Hubert.
And, you did not have reference to the officers at other passageways?
Captain MARTIN. That's right.
Mr. Hubert.
All right. I might ask you in connection with that same thing,

what do you mean by the word "compound" ?
Captain MARTIN. I didn't use that.
Mr. Hubert.
Didn't use that word?
Captain MARTIN. No; that must be theirs.
Mr. Hubert.
What do you understand there, because the report is that you said "That this was the only entrance into the compound which Ruby could have used" ?
Captain MARTIN. I didn't use that word.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, did you express any such thought and -if so, what were you referring to?
Captain MARTIN. Of course, what they are referring to by "compound," is the area right outside the Jail door there.

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