Mr. Hubert.

"unquote". Then make your comment about the sentence, or if you have the whole paragraph you may do it that way.

Mr. Lowery.

Well, first one, quote Lowery

Mr. Hubert.

That is on the first page, is it not? What paragraph?

Mr. Lowery.

First page, first paragraph interview by Mr. Bookhout of the FBI.

Mr. Hubert.

You are going to start reading, so say "quote".

Mr. Lowery.

Quote, "Lowery stated he and several others grabbed Ruby," unquote. Now, I didn't--I didn't grab Ruby. Several other officers did. I did not touch Ruby at all at that time.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you tell this man--
Mr. LOWERY. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. HUBERT. That is incorrect?

Mr. Lowery.

I do not recall--no, I touched Ruby later, but not at this particular time. This is the time where Ruby was disarmed and taken into the I didn't touch him at all at that particular time. There were several other officers around him. I couldn't even get to him.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you touch him?

Mr. Lowery.

He was carried into the Jail office by several officers, and after coming into the jail office by myself, I held one of Jack Ruby's legs while he was given a quick shakedown before he was taken upstairs.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Have you any other comments to make about that Exhibit 5082?

Mr. Lowery.

I don't believe that there is any others on this one. Yes. On Page 2, of this same exhibit--let's see, where could I start. Now, would you like me to start in the middle of a sentence, or just read the whole sentence even though it is several lines?

Mr. Hubert.

Perhaps you'd better read the whole sentence, I think it will be clearer.

Mr. Lowery.

All right, quote "He stated this camera was never put into operation, the cable was never connected and the blank cap was never taken off. Lowery stated that the following--that following the shooting, the action of the two cameramen who had pushed the camera from the area was brought to the attention of Lt. R. E. Swain, and they were taken to homicide and robbery bureau for questioning." unquote. The facts are, are that the cameramen were not taken to homicide and robbery bureau. I accompanied those men up on the third floor where they were allowed to set up their long range camera, and I stayed with those people for approximately an hour to an hour and a half until I contacted Lieutenant Baker in the homicide division and told him the reason that I was with those people, and he advised me to take their names and addresses, business address and business phone, and home phone number, and that it wouldn't be necessary to stay with them any longer. I took this information and turned it in to Lieutenant Baker and released the cameramen.

Mr. Hubert.

Anything else you wish to say about it ?

Mr. Lowery.

I don't believe there is any other.

Mr. Hubert.

5082. Anything other about 5082?

Mr. Lowery.

No, that is--nothing further.

Mr. Hubert.

As to Exhibit 5083, I ask you if it is correct, do you have any changes or suggestions, or comments to make about it?

Mr. Lowery.

On page 1, paragraph 2--let's see, "The contingent from the juvenile bureau consisted of Captain Martin, Lt. George Butler, Detective W. J. Cutchshaw, Detective L. B. Miller, Detective Charles Goolsby, Patrolman W. J. Harrison and myself, Lowery."
The facts are that Captain Martin, Lt. George Butler, Detective W. J. Cutchshaw, Detective L. B. Miller, Detective Charles Goolsby went from the third---juvenile bureau, on the third floor, room 314, city hall, down the elevator to the basement of the city hall. As we came off the elevator we met Patrolman W. J. Harrison coming up the hall from the police locker room, and he accompanied us to the location in the basement where Oswald was shot.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say, "city hall," you mean the police department building, not the municipal building?

Mr. Lowery.

No, sir. Police and courts building.