Mr. Griffin.

At any time on Sunday, that is, the day that Oswald was shot, did you hear the rumor that Ruby came down the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you got back--what time did you get back to the juvenile bureau on Friday--I mean on Sunday?

Mr. Harrison.

It was well after 6 o'clock.

Mr. Griffin.

And did you--when you got back there, did you talk with anybody about how Ruby might have got in?

Mr. Harrison.

No; I went on home.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you hear any discussion from anybody

Mr. Harrison.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

From anybody about how--well, weren't people generally discussing this?

Mr. Harrison.

I suppose they were, but I was tired, and I went home.

Mr. Griffin.

Wasn't this a big topic of conversation back there at this time?

Mr. Harrison.

I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. When you got back on Monday morning--did you come in Monday morning?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you begin to talk .with people about how Ruby got in?

Mr. Harrison.

I suppose I did, but I don't recall.

Mr. Griffin.

When is the first time that you recall hearing the rumor that he came down the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, it would have been possibly Monday. I was off Tuesday and Wednesday. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did McMillon ever tell you at any time that--have you talked with McMillon about this, these events, at any time since Sunday the 24th ?

Mr. Harrison.

We have had some discussion, but I don't recall what it was. Of course, we have talked to several.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you talk to Dean at any time?

Mr. Harrison.

No; I have never talked to him.

Mr. Griffin.

Are you friendly to Dean?

Mr. Harrison.

No; he is in the radio patrol, and I very seldom see the man.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. How about Archer?

Mr. Harrison.

Archer, he is in the auto bureau. I see him occasionally.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Clardy?

Mr. Harrison.

Occasionally; I see him.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, have any of these men told you since the since the time that Oswald was shot by Ruby that Ruby told them that he came in through the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

They never did tell me that, none of them. Now

Mr. Griffin.

When was the first--go ahead.

Mr. Harrison.

I heard, after the trial down there I heard them discussing, of course, the evidence that was brought out, and they said that he had made the statement that he came in that way. And when Lieutenant Wallace and Lieutenant McCaghren were making their followup investigation, which I don't know how many days it was after, they had talked that he had, or suggested that he had, come down the ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, they had suggested this?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, they had, through their investigation, more or less, they had kind of--I guess you would make a theory out of it that he had come down the ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

You don't mean that they suggested it, but this is the inference or the conclusion that they drew ?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what I would like for you to do is, if you would, sign Exhibit 5028 and date it.

Mr. Harrison.

This is the 25th, isn't it?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes, it is. Isn't it? Yes. I might say for the record, so that Mr. MacMaster understands, part of the procedures here now permit you to ask