Mr. Griffin.

And did you see anybody on the way up or down whom you recognized as not being a newspaperman or a police officer.

Mr. Harrison.

Well, at that time, there was no one in that immediate area. The officers were going across from the elevator to the jail office, the officers out of the juvenile bureau.

Mr. Griffin.

So when you came up, you found the officers had left?

Mr. Harrison.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

I mean had left the juvenile bureau, right?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, they were leaving the elevator coming across.

Mr. Griffin.

Had you met them in the basement?

Mr. Harrison.

Met them in the basement, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And who did you see there at that time

Mr. Harrison.

Well, there was Miller, Lowery and Cutchshaw, Goolsby, and I believe that was all out of our bureau.

Mr. Griffin.

And what did you do when you saw them ?

Mr. Harrison.

One of them told me to come on.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember which one that was?

Mr. Harrison.

I don.'t recall who it was.

Mr. Griffin.

And where did you go with them?

Mr. Harrison.

We stood in front of the jail office.

Mr. Griffin.

And what happened as you waited around there?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, we were waiting around to get--find out where they were going to put us.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you finally get some instructions from somebody ?

Mr. Harrison.

I believe it was Captain Jones that come in and told us that--to come on out into the area there in the driveway, and he told us that he wanted all of the newsmen on the east side of the drive and that he wanted nothing but officers over in this corridor here and where the well, on the west wall, in other words.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, let's go off of the record here. I want to find out. (Discussion off the record. )

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to mark this diagram that you have drawn here Harrison Exhibit 5027, and I am going to ask you, Officer Harrison, if you will just put in here "coke machine" or whatever these things are, "cigar machine."

Mr. Harrison.

This is a post here.

Mr. Griffin.

A post. A support post. All right. Why don't you mark that post, then? And then mark the area where the okay. Now, and that is "door." Okay. Now, would you sign that any place where you can get your signature and then date it? (Recess.)

Mr. Griffin.

We were at the point where you had come into the basement area and seen the people coming down from the juvenile bureau. Before you went down there, had you left word that you would be down in the locker room ?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes; I told Goodsby that I was going down and get me some cigars.

Mr. Griffin.

Did there come a time when you were down in the basement that somebody gave you some instructions as to what was to be done?

Mr. Harrison.

Captain Jones, I believe it was, had come out and told us to go out into the ramp area, the garage, and to set--to put these photographers and newspeople on the east side of the driveway.

Mr. Griffin.

Will you take this map, diagram or chart (Harrison Exhibit 5028) which is--actually is a reduction of a chart that the Dallas Police Department made for us some time ago and purports to represent the basement area ?

You can see the jail office here ?

Mr. Harrison.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

And you can see Commerce Street over here and Main Street here and the garage area here and the Main Street ramp going down and the Commerce Street ramp going up, and this shows a Solid wall along Commerce Street here. Actually, this is the basement wall. The basement extends out under the sidewalk, but if you were looking at this at ground level, you would see this broken line is the wall of the building. Now, directing your attention to the part that shows the exit from the jail office and the ramps and the entrance