Mr. Harrison.

Well, we knew that we would be told, that someone would come and get us.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have any idea of what would be the occasion for moving Oswald, what would be done before Oswald would be moved ?

Mr. Harrison.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you aware that the homicide people were questioning Oswald at that time?

Mr. Harrison.

We didn't know they were. We assumed that they were.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there reporters running in and out of the office?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Were they talking about the events that were going on?

Mr. Harrison.

They were mostly using the phone. They weren't talking to us. They were mostly calling their home

Mr. Griffin.

They were using the phone in your office?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

You were able to hear what they were saying over the telephone ?

Mr. Harrison.

I didn't pay any attention to what they were saying. There were three of us in there that morning. All we told them was to leave us three lines open because we were pretty busy ourselves.

Mr. Griffin.

What was the next thing you recall in connection with the movement of Lee Oswald?

Mr. Harrison.

About, I would say, 3 or 4 or 5 minutes to 11. I went down to the subbasement to get me some cigars, and as I come back up out of the subbasement, well, then the officers out of our bureau were going across from the elevator to the to there in front of the Jail office.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, there are two basements, as I understand it, in the Police and Courts Building. One is the basement level that the garage is on and the jail office and the records room?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And then there is a subbasement?

Mr. Harrison.

Locker room.

Mr. Griffin.

Locker room 'down below that. Now, how did you get down from the third floor into the subbasement? Does the elevator go all of the way down?

Mr. Harrison.

No, no; it stops at the floor where the jail office is.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. When you get out of the jail office, where do you have to go ?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, actually to the south end.

Mr. Griffin.

You walk down to the hallway and then you open a door?

Mr. Harrison.

No; you go down a stairway.

Mr. Griffin.

Go down a stairway?

Mr. Harrison.

Into the subbasement.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, there is, is there not, a doorway, as you walk from Commerce Street down the steps to go to the door that entered into the building and through the hallway that you had walked down? Do you follow me?

Mr. Harrison.

No, no; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Let's suppose that you walked from the record room to the sub-basement by way of the hallway that leads out towards Commerce Street.

Mr. Harrison.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, that hallway has a door that goes out of the building, does it not?

Mr. Harrison.

Right.

Mr. Griffin.

And when you open that door and go out of the building, there are two other doors, right?

Mr. Harrison.

No, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, isn't there a door on your---on your left as you face Commerce Street, isn't there a door on your left that goes into the engine room?

Mr. Harrison.

Actually, I have never--I believe there is a door there. It is underneath where the stairway goes up.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, there is a door straight ahead where the stairway goes up? In other words, as you walk out of the door from the building to leave the