Mr. Croy.

They were very interested.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, can you tell me more about that?

Mr. Croy.

No; well, I will put it this way, that it took us 8 hours to get that up. That is how interested they were.

Mr. Griffin.

You talked with them for 8 hours?

Mr. Croy.

On 2 different occasions. That day and the next day, for 4 hours each day. That is pretty interesting.

Mr. Griffin.

Mr. Croy, I take it that you actually talked to them on November, the last day of November was the first time you talked to them, and then you signed this on the first day of December ?

Mr. Croy.

What it was, the stenographer took it, and then she typed it up. Then the next day I went back down there and they re-read it to me and went over and over and over and over the same thing over and over again. And then I took it into Lieutenant Curtis and signed it and had it notarized.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that examination the way you and I have been going back and forth here?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there a number of drafts to this statement? You say it took you 2 days to draw this up. Had you written a number?

Mr. CROY. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you write something first?
Mr. CROY. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did they take notes as you talked with them ?

Mr. Croy.

No; we talked the entire thing over, and after we talked everything over and they brought the stenographer in and we went back over it again, then I left and she typed it up, and I came in the next day and we went back over it again and back over it and so on.

Mr. Griffin.

Were they critical of you in any way for not having ejected Ruby the first time that you saw him in the basement?
Mr.. CROY. No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you indicate to them at that time that you didn't know who he was when you first saw him?

Mr. Croy.

Yes; I didn't know who he was.

Mr. Griffin.

When you first saw this man, did you believe that he was a newspaper reporter?

Mr. Croy.

I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you tell that to Lieutenant Revill and Captain Cornwall?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to mark this "Ruby location at the time Croy saw him moving toward Oswald." Is that a fair description of what the hieroglyphics on here mean?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to mark this "Dallas, Tex, Mr. Croy, 3-26-64, Exhibit 5054," and what I have marked on is the chart upon which you made a certain mark while you described to me what happened when you saw a man you believed to be Ruby run toward Oswald. Now, let me ask you to sign that, if you believe that is an accurate copy of the real McCoy. Would you date it also ?

Mr. Croy.

[Signs and dates.]

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you have any other information that you could provide the Commission of any significance?

Mr. Croy.

None other than what we have talked about right here. ( Statement to witness by court reporter. )

Mr. Griffin.

Well, now, tell me about your conversation that you had with our court stenographer here prior to coming in here, about Tippit?

Mr. Croy.

Oh, it was at the scene over where Officer Tippit was killed, at the scene.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you at the scene when Tippit was there?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Unassigned?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it you are nodding your head?