Mr. Arnett.

I would say it was probably a few minutes before I heard him say that. I could be wrong about it. I am trying to, you know, think whether it was or wasn't, but I am not certain about it.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, the call that you issued to Lieutenant McCoy, would that have gone through the dispatcher's office?

Mr. Arnett.

For him to call me would--yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And they would have made a record of that, isn't that right?

Mr. Arnett.

It would have been recorded, but our conversation wouldn't have been.

Mr. Griffin.

If we were to look at that record, would that be the most accurate reflection of the approximate time that you had information concerning the transfer of Oswald; in other words, is that the most accurate

Mr. Arnett.

It would be recorded all right.

Mr. Griffin.

My question is, we want to try to find out just exactly how soon people would have known that something was going to happen. Now, is that record, that would be in the dispatcher's office the most accurate or earliest record that would have been made of anything you did in connection with the information you received about the move, that Oswald was going to be moved the next day?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, it would show--you would have to first check and see what squad McCoy was riding, to get the number.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Arnett.

You see?

Mr. Griffin.

It wouldn't go out to McCoy specifically ?

Mr. Arnett.

No; it would go to the squad he was riding with. His name wouldn't have been on there.

Mr. Griffin.

But now, would the dispatcher's statement over the radio, would that say number such-and-such call number such-and-such, or would it say number such-and-such call Captain Arnett?

Mr. Arnett.

No; I believe it would have said call the office. I don't believe our names would have been mentioned on the air.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Now, would there be a record of some kind that we could use to find out what number designated Lieutenant McCoy?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, there would be a work sheet, assignment sheet, of what squad he was riding in that night, the number of it. For instance, we will just say 243 or 242 or--I don't know what number it was now, but I am just saying those numbers, that it's possible he could have been in.

Mr. Griffin.

Well now, do you know how long records of that sort are retained by the police department?

Mr. Arnett.

I suppose they are kept for a long time.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what time was it that you arrived at the Police and Courts Building the next day ?

Mr. Arnett.

Nine o'clock a.m.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. How many men would you estimate that you contacted about this between the time that you got the word from Lieutenant Merrell and the time you arrived at 9 o'clock?

Mr. Arnett.

If I remember right, I called Lieutenant Merrell--I mean Lieutenant McCoy, and I saw Lieutenant Nicholson and told him to call some of his men. If I remember right, though, those are the only two people I contacted on it.. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, would Lieutenant Merrell have had occasion to contact any other officers, to give instructions to men?

Mr. Arnett.

He could have called some of the sergeants and told them.

Mr. Griffin.

I see. Would there have been any other captains who would have given instructions similar to ones you gave?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, there are three more captains, but so far as I know there wasn't any contacted, unless it was Captain Crump and I didn't contact him.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. How many men did you attempt to get in that next morning?

Mr. Arnett.

I told them to have 8 or 9 to 10 men.

Mr. Griffin.

I see. Each; each lieutenant?

Mr. Arnett.

No; each one just get two or three men. We had 18.