Mr. Arnett.

No, sir. I was in front of it, and as people got off they had to show their identification.

Mr. Griffin.

I see. Did you recognize Jack Ruby ?

Mr. Arnett.

Did I recognize him ?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; I mean, did you know Jack Ruby up to this point?

Mr. Arnett.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

What kind of identification did you ask for when people got off of the elevator?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, if they was a press reporter, they had a press card, showing who they were, and they were from everywhere, coming in there. You would be surprised how far they had traveled that day. You know, I was--I didn't think about people being there that day, you know, from so far up. One man told me he was asleep in Chicago. They woke him up and told him the President had been killed, and he was there that night, I would say by 8 o'clock. There was one man in particular that I remember, that came up. He said he was a postal inspector.

Mr. Griffin.

Postal inspector?

Mr. Arnett.

He showed me his identification, said he would like to talk to Captain Fritz, that he had a key to the post office box down there that this fellow had, and he wanted to see if that key did fit it, or he had a key and he wanted to see if it would--was to that box.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, how many of you were standing there at the third floor elevator, checking identification of people who got off the elevator?

Mr. Arnett.

I would say four. Two elevators.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do about people who came up, who said they came up to see somebody who was being questioned, or in connection with some other business other than being a photographer or---

Mr. Arnett.

If they didn't have an identification of pressmen or ranger or lawmen of some kind, they were turned back. There were two Spanish men came up there who wanted to talk to some officer about a ticket, and we notified whatever officer they wanted to talk to about it, and told him to go downstairs and see them.

Mr. Griffin.

Suppose somebody had showed you a justice of the peace card, would you have admitted him ?

Mr. Arnett.

A justice of the peace?

Mr. Griffin.

Suppose somebody had showed you a card that said he was an honorary deputy sheriff, or a courtesy card, some of the law enforcement agents give out, are you familiar with those?

Mr. Arnett.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Suppose someone had showed you one of those, would you have let him in ?

Mr. Arnett.

I wouldn't let anybody in who didn't have proper identification, without notifying one of these regular officers standing there.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you have considered this a proper identification?

Mr. Arnett.

I don't remember having that come up. Now, there were two or three rangers there. One of them from Gainesville, Tex. I talked to him a little bit and the captain of the rangers was there. I don't know where he was from. He might have been from Dallas.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have any lawyers come up?

Mr. Arnett.

Lawyers?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Arnett.

I don't remember any.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you have any newspaper people come up who didn't show you press cards who appeared to be newspaper people from the way they conducted themselves?
Mr. ARNETT. Two or three different times a news reporter would come up and show a press card and say, "I have got a friend with me that's just with me". I said he would just have to wait downstairs, and they did.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, you know, a number of police officers have stated that they saw Jack Ruby up on the third floor on Friday evening. How do you imagine that Ruby could have got by?
Mr. ARNETT. I don't know. After I was there that afternoon or that night, I