Mr. Griffin.

I mean at other parades was it the custom to bring you into the assembly room or

Mr. Arnett.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Then give instructions as to what you should do and what to watch out for?

Mr. Arnett.

That's right.

Mr. Griffin.

Were any of the men under your supervision assigned to the area of the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Arnett.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know whether there were any men at all of the reserve officers assigned to the area of the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Arnett.

I don't recall any.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, the fact that you don't recall; would you have been made aware of that?

Mr. Arnett.

I had a list of it.

Mr. Griffin.

You did. And did that list show the areas where they were assigned ?

Mr. Arnett.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you still have a copy of that list ?

Mr. Arnett.

Captain Solomon does.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, on this list did it show where each particular man was to stand, was to be placed ?

Mr. Arnett.

They would either be on the west side of Harwood or they would be on the east side of Harwood, between block so-and-so; Main the same way.

Mr. Griffin.

But would it show Charles O. Arnett, corner of Main and Harwood ?

Mr. Arnett.

I was working at large.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, would it show, if I were working there, would it show Burt W. Griffin, corner of Main and Harwood?

Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. What did you do when you heard that the President had been shot?

Mr. Arnett.

Had an aunt that was to be buried at 2 o'clock that afternoon, and the President's parade was later than it had been predicted, and when it was over with, prior to the President's arrival at the between Harwood and Pacific on Main, a young lady in her twenties, maybe 30 years old, came up to me and said, "There is some kids right down there that's got a gun and some toy handcuffs and a knife." I said, "Would you show them to me?" She said, "Well, I rather not." So I went and got Earl Sawyer, a police officer that was working the corner of Harwood and Main, and told him of it. He and I went back to the lady and he asked her. She said, "Oh, it's just a toy pistol." But some little girls there with us told us where they were, about where they were standing, and we walked up to them, asked them about the gun and stuff. They said the boy with the gun had walked off, but one of them give us a pair of handcuffs and a knife, and I taken him, and Sawyer went with me, and we carried him to the juvenile department up on the third floor.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that a real knife that the kid had?

Mr. Arnett.

Yes, sir. The gun turned out to be a blank, like they shoot---oh, at starting races or something like that, you know. When the parade was past us, one of these smaller boys that was in the group come up to me and asked me when his buddy would .be turned loose. I said, "I don't know, son, but I will go up there with you to try to find out where he is." So we went up there on the third floor of the juvenile department. While I was in there someone rushed in and said, "The President has been shot."

Mr. Griffin.

Who was up there with you at that time in the juvenile department; do you recall any of the officers that were there?

Mr. Arnett.

No; I believe Captain Martin--now, I could be wrong on the name, but he is over the juvenile department, or was. You know, the captain that they--that had the kid that we had carried up there. So I came back downstairs then and I saw two or three highway patrol, driver's license men-

Mr. Griffin.

Let me interrupt here just a second, give you a few names of