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(Testimony of Kerry Wendell Thornley)
Every now and then we had to give up our Saturday morning liberty to go march in one of these parades and everybody, of course, having just gotten up, and having to stand out, to look forward to a morning of standing out in the hot sun and marching around, was irritable. So, we were involved at the moment in a "hurry-up and wait routine" which is common in large organizations like the military. We were waiting at the moment, in the parking lot by the parade ground, sitting. Oswald and I happened to be sitting next to each, other on a log that was used to bank cars, in the parking lot. I had just finished "1984" a couple of days earlier, and I had not yet discussed it with Oswald, and I was--he said something and I said something; I don't recall what it was--I was definitely thinking of "1984" at the time and I was using terms from "1984." Oswald didn't seem to be particularly amused by what I was saying, and he was--he seemed to be kind of lost in his own thoughts, and so I stopped making any comments at all to him for awhile. Then he turned to me and said something about the stupidity of the parade, of the whole circumstance right at the moment, how angry it made him, and I said, I believe my words were, "Well, comes the revolution you will change all that."
At which time he looked at me like a betrayed Caesar and screamed, screamed definitely, "Not you, too, Thornley." And I remember his voice cracked as he said this. He was definitely disturbed at what I had said and I didn't really think I had said that much. He put his hands in his pockets and pulled his hat down over his eyes and walked away and went over and sat down someplace else alone, and I thought, well, you know, forget about it, and I never said anything to him again and he never said anything to me again.
Mr. Jenner.
You mean you never spoke to each other from that time on?
Mr. Thornley.
No; and shortly thereafter I left the outfit for overseas. I don't recall that we were ever in a situation where we would have spoken, but I know we never spoke after that. And this happened with many people, this reaction of Oswald's. and therefore he had few friends. He never seemed to have any one friend for a long length of time, one acquaintance. He seemed to guard against developing real close friendships.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever excuse me. you recall being interviewed by an agent of the FBI?
Mr. Thornley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
This was in New Orleans on Monday the 25th of---
Mr. Thornley.
This was on an afternoon. Does he have the time down?
Mr. Jenner.
25th of November.
Mr. Thornley.
That was Secret Service, wasn't it? Let's see, the 22d, 23d, 24th.
Mr. Jenner.
This was Special Agent Merwin Alderson and Special Agent Richard Farrell. It was the Monday following the assassination.
Mr. Thornley.
What I believe happened is--I believe they arrived in Arnaud's Restaurant where I was working at the time about midnight Sunday night so it would actually be Monday, yes, sir, that they talked to me. I gathered at the time these gentlemen were from the Secret Service, but those are the gentlemen.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you say to them in connection with this sudden termination of the relationship between yourself and Oswald "that you had made this comment to Oswald, that he was a Communist and that things would be different when the revolution came"?
Mr. Thornley.
No; I didn't tell them he was a Communist; no. But Oswald, certainly that was his reason for his anger. There was an implied accusation of communism in my saying, "Comes the revolution you will change all that."
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mr. Thornley.
You see, he wasn't understanding the comments I was making in relation to "1984" at all, our traditional meeting ground here. He was interpreting them in light of his alleged communism, and that is why he became angry. But no; I didn't say to him, "You are a Communist"ever.
Mr. Jenner.
It is your explanation.
Mr. Thornley.
This was not my opinion.
Mr. Jenner.
You are saying that he interpreted your comment to be that you accused him of being a Communist, and then he made the remark, "Not you, too."
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