(Testimony of Warren Reynolds Allen)
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Were you there at about say, after the hour of 12 o'clock noon in the afternoon?
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Tell us what you saw; will you, please?
Mr. Reynolds.
OK; our office is up high where I can have a pretty good view of what was going on. I heard the shots and, when I heard the shots, I went out on this front porch which is, like I say, high, and I saw this man coming down the street with the gun in his hand, swinging it just like he was running. He turned the corner of Patton and Jefferson, going west, and put the gun in his pants and took off, walking.
Mr. Liebeler.
How many shots did you hear?
Mr. Reynolds.
I really have no idea, to be honest with you. I would say four or five or six. I just would have no idea. I heard one, and then I heard a succession of some more, and I didn't see the officer get shot.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you see this man's face that had the gun in his hand?
Mr. Reynolds.
Very good.
Mr. Liebeler.
Subsequent to that time, you were questioned by the Dallas Police Department, were you not?
Mr. Reynolds.
Mr. Liebeler.
The Dallas Police Department never tailed to you about the man that you saw going down the street?
Mr. Reynolds.
Now, they talked to me much later, you mean?
Mr. Liebeler.
OK; let me put it this way: When is the first time that anybody from any law-enforcement agency, and I mean by that, the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police Department, Dallas County sheriff's office; you pick it. When is the first time that they ever talked to you?
Mr. Reynolds.
January 21.
Mr. Liebeler.
That is the first time they ever talked to you about what you saw on that day?
Mr. Reynolds.
That's right.
Mr. Liebeler.
So you never in any way identified this man in the police department or any other authority, either in November or in December of 1963; is that correct?
Mr. Reynolds.
No; I sure didn't.
Mr. Liebeler.
So it can be in no way said that you "fingered" the man who was running down the street, and identified him as the man who was going around and putting the gun in his pocket?
Mr. Reynolds.
It can be said I didn't talk to the authorities.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you say anything about it to anybody else?
Mr. Reynolds.
I did.
Mr. Liebeler.
Were you able to identify this man in your own mind?
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
You did identify him as Lee Harvey Oswald in your own mind?
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
You had no question about it?
Mr. Reynolds.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Let me show you some pictures that we have here. I show you a picture that has been marked Garner Exhibit No. 1 and ask you if that is the man that you saw going down the street on the 22d of November as you have already told us.
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
You later identified that man as Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. Reynolds.
In my mind.
Mr. Liebeler.
Your mind, that is what I mean.
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
When you saw his picture in the newspaper and on television? Is that right?
Mr. Reynolds.
Yes; unless you have somebody that looks an awful lot like him there.
Mr. Liebeler.
I show you an exhibit that has been marked Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C and ask you if that is the same man, in your opinion?
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