Mr. Andrews.

Yes; he is mostly a voice on the phone.

Mr. Liebeler.

What day did you receive the telephone call from Clay Bertrand asking you to defend Oswald?

Mr. Andrews.

I don't remember. It was a Friday or a Saturday.

Mr. Liebeler.

Immediately following the assassination?

Mr. Andrews.

I don't know about that. I didn't know. Yes; I did. I guess I did because I was--they told me I was squirrelly in the hospital.

Mr. Liebeler.

You had pneumonia; is that right?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And as I understand it, you were under heavy sedation at that time in connection with your treatment for pneumonia?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes; this is what happened: After I got the call, I called my secretary at her home and asked her if she had remembered Lee Harvey Oswald's file. Of course, she didn't remember, and I had to tell her about all the kooky kids. She thought we had a file in the office. I would assume that he would have called subsequent to this boy's arrest. I am pretty sure it was before the assassination. I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't mean before the assassination--don't you mean before Oswald had been shot? After the assassination and before Oswald had been shot?

Mr. Andrews.

After Oswald's arrest and prior to his--

Mr. Liebeler.

His death?

Mr. Andrews.

His death.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now my recollection from reviewing reports from the FBI is that you first advised the FBI of this, telling them that you recall that Clay Bertrand had called you at some time between 6 o'clock and 9 o'clock in the evening and spoke to you about this matter. Do you remember telling the FBI about that?

Mr. Andrews.

I remember speaking with them. The exact words, I do not, but that's probably correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember what time approximately that Clay Bertrand did call you?

Mr. Andrews.

I will tell you: They feed around 4:30. By the time I got fed, it was about 5 o'clock. They picked the tray up. So that's about the right time. It's around that time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now you said that after Clay Bertrand called you, you called your secretary and asked her if she remembered the Oswald file; is that correct?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes; she didn't remember Oswald at all. She knows that occasionally these people walk in and out of the office and she had remembered something, but nothing of any value.

Mr. Liebeler.

And do you remember that after you got out of the hospital, you discussed with your secretary the telephone call that you made to her at home?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And do you recall that she said that she remembered that you

called her at approximately 4 o'clock on the afternoon of November 23, 1963?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now have you---let's take it one step further: Do you also recall the fact that your private investigator spent most of that afternoon with you in your hospital room?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes; he was there.

Mr. Liebeler.

He was there with you?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes; Preston M. Davis.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember approximately what time he left?

Mr. Andrews.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would it have been before you called your secretary or afterwards?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Before you called?

Mr. Andrews.

No; after.

Mr. Liebeler.

After you called your secretary?

Mr. Andrews.

Let's see. He wasn't there when I made the phone call. He