Mr. Lewis.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Why was that?

Mr. Lewis.

Well, he is just a person that kind of gives you a bad time. You can do without that kind. You don't have time to fool with them.

Mr. Hubert.

Now when did it first come to your attention that it was possible that the man that had dealings with you, as you have testified, might be Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Lewis.

Mr. Hamblen, after I had gone back on my job quite sometime, called me at home one night and asked me did I recall when I had paid that party, and I told him I recalled it.
And he asked me did I recognize him as being Oswald, and I said, "No, I have never put it together." I just never did. And I still can't picture the two. I had forgotten all about it.

Mr. Hubert.

When was it that Hamblen approached you, as you say he did, and asked you about this?

Mr. Lewis.

I don't recall the date, but it was a couple of weeks after the assassination, after he was killed.

Mr. Hubert.

You say then it was about the first week in December?

Mr. Lewis.

I would say somewhere along in there. I am not for sure, but it was a short time span.

Mr. Hubert.

Would it thus have been about 2 months after you had had this episode, that this episode occurred between you and this man?

Mr. Lewis.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Then your memory did not associate the payee with Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Lewis.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

At that time had you been shown or looked at pictures of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Lewis.

I had seen him on TV.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you at any time prior to today been shown a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald as I have shown it to you?

Mr. Lewis.

I don't recall if Mr. Wilcox had one or not. I am not sure. But I saw it in the newspapers and on TV, and I don't recall seeing one that day. I could have. He possibly had one.

Mr. Hubert.

What I am talking about is the day that inquiry was focused upon the possibility of this payee as Lee Harvey Oswald. Were you then shown a picture and asked if it was that man as I have done today?

Mr. Lewis.

I believe I was. I am not for sure, but I believe Mr. Wilcox had one at the time.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you have described the identification card which this

payee ultimately produced and which you ultimately recognized?

Mr. Lewis.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

I believe you said it was a Navy ID card?

Mr. Lewis.

It was a little release card you get when you get out of the service.

Mr. Hubert.

Did it have a picture on it?

Mr. Lewis.

No, sir. It just had his name and some of them have serial numbers and some of them don't.

Mr. Hubert.

So the identification established then was that the person who held the telegram also held a card addressed to the payee of the telegram?

Mr. Lewis.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he have a library card as well?

Mr. Lewis.

I believe it was a library card also.

Mr. Hubert.

That didn't have any picture?

Mr. Lewis.

That didn't have a picture; no. This ID that he had wasn't very good at all, as far as we considered-identification to pay money orders.

Mr. Hubert.

Why not?

Mr. Lewis.

We like to have pictures on identification and some legal papers, you might say; insurance and driver's license.

Mr. Hubert.

Driver's license?

Mr. Lewis.

Driver's license; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ask for that?

Mr. Lewis.

I asked for it, and he didn't have any.