Mr. Hamblen.

someone that resembled him from the picture that I had seen in the paper and on TV.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you aren't able to state positively that it was Lee Oswald?

Mr. Hamblen.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, I Show you a photograph that has been marked Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-A, and ask you if you can see anybody in that picture that you think might have been the man that was in your office that we have been talking about.

Mr. Hamblen.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you a picture that has been marked Bringuier Exhibit No. 1, and ask you if you recognize anybody in that picture.

Mr. Hamblen.

No, sir; I do not.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recall specifically that Mr. Aubrey Lee Lewis at one time in the fall of 1963 had some trouble paying somebody a money order because this fellow expected to get the money order without proper identification; that you became involved in this and helped Mr. Lewis handle it?

Mr. Hamblen.

Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember what the fellow looked like?

Mr. Hamblen.

No; I can't tell you what he looked like.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know if it was Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Hamblen.

I wouldn't say that it was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think he resembled Oswald in any way?

Mr. Hamblen.

No; I don't. Different ways people dress and everything, they come in one time and we pay them money orders and the next time they come in we hardly recognize them. I remember it was a very small money order, too small to quibble over. I can't remember where it was from. I know it was under $10, I know that.
Usually I pay people without identification when it is a small money order, which the clerks are not allowed to do. They have to get my permission before they can make payment on a money order where a person is unable to furnish proper identification. But on small amounts, I take it upon myself to assume the responsibility, hoping that I will pay the right man.

Mr. Liebeler.

After looking at this picture that we have looked at, and after reviewing your recollection, you are not able to identify any of the people who you saw in your office during that period as being Lee Harvey Oswald, isn't that a fact?

Mr. Hamblen.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Am I correct in assuming that you are quite certain that Oswald was not a regular customer, in any event? He was never coming into your office at regular intervals, is that correct?

Mr. Hamblen.

Well, I wouldn't say Lee Oswald came in there at regular intervals. We have patrons that visit us sometimes once a week, sometimes half a dozen times a week. If it was him, he was very infrequent. I will say if it was him, he wasn't there over three times, that I recall.

Mr. Liebeler.

There was a fellow that you thought resembled Oswald to some extent that did come in on occasion, or at least two or three times, but you are not able to positively state that it was Oswald?

Mr. Hamblen.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Am I correct in understanding that in your discussions with Mr. Wilcox and with the other officials of the company, you did the best that you could to straighten this whole matter out and determine whether it was Oswald or not?

Mr. Hamblen.

I certainly did.

Mr. Liebeler.

You were unable, after working with Mr. Wilcox, to pin down any of these telegrams or money orders that would indicate that it was Oswald?

Mr. Hamblen.

That is correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, specifically, I show you a picture marked "Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C," and ask you if that looks like that man who was in your office.

Mr. Hamblen.

No; I wouldn't say that that was the man that was in there. No resemblance.

Mr. Liebeler.

I want to cut your testimony as short as I possibly can, because