Mr. Mckenzie.

Did he state what he was looking for, did he tell you what he was looking for?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I asked him what kind of furniture that he was looking, and I suggested furnitures to him if he bought new furniture. I said, "Do You like Early American, or do you like Danish Modern?" And we exchanged those words and he never uttered what he liked or anything. He didn't say what he liked.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Now, Mrs. Whitworth, there had been a gun shop in that particular location before you moved in with your furniture store?

Mrs. Whitworth.

No; I leased one corner of my store to a gunsmith.

Mr. Mckenzie.

And what was his name?

Mrs. Whitworth.

His name was Warren Graves.

Mr. Liebeler.

Does he still operate a gun shop?

Mrs. Whitworth.

No; he doesn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Does he still live in the Irving area?

Mrs. Whitworth.

He still lives in Irving.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Had you had any previous experience with guns?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Other than just seeing guns in that little corner of the building, it seems like, and you know, hearing conversations on guns, but I knew nothing about guns.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Well, did you know anything about the various nomenclature or the various parts of a gun?

Mrs. Whitworth.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Mckenzie.

But you did recognize that a plunger was a part of a gun when this man came in?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Well, in the way that he asked for it, I knew that it was a gun part that he wanted because I didn't have it.

Mr. Mckenzie.

In what way did he ask for it, explain what you mean by that?

Mrs. Whitworth.

As well as I can remember, I told him we didn't have a gunsmith and he asked for this part and I don't remember really just what he asked for, but whatever it was, it led me to know that he wanted a gunsmith, which we didn't have.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Were you in the front of the store when he came in?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes; I was in the cash stand.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Was Mrs. Hunter still sitting there on the platform chair?

Mrs. Whitworth.

She was sitting there in the front.

Mr. Mckenzie.

And how far away was she from you when he came in?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I was behind the stand, which I guess that was probably 4 or 5 feet in squares and I would have had to have gotten out of the stand and walked clear around and Mrs. Hunter, I imagine, was probably 8 feet from me.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Was she as close to you as I am now--just directly across, I mean?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes.

Mr. Mckenzie.

About the same distance that we are apart now?

Mrs. Whitworth.

There was a counter between us.

Mr. Mckenzie.

And we are about 8 feet apart now, aren't we?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes.

Mr. Mckenzie.

When the man came in, was there anyone else in the store other than Mrs. Hunter and yourself?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I don't believe there was anyone in the store but Mrs. Hunter and myself. Now, there was probably someone on the outside.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Now, if I may direct this question to Mrs. Hunter; Mrs. Hunter, do you recall any of the conversation that you heard Mrs. Whitworth testify about this morning?

Mrs. Hunter.

Well, when he drove up in the car and I thought it was my friends from Houston and when I seen it wasn't, I sat back down in the chair and he went down to the door on that end of the building and went in and he asked her, he says, "Where is your gunsmith?"
I remember that and he had something--I won't say just what it was, because I wasn't particularly interested. I wasn't in her being down there at the time. She told him that the gunsmith was moved--that he wasn't there, and she showed him down the street where to go to.