Mr. Liebeler.

Did he say where they lived?

Mrs. Whitworth.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

But he said they were living in an apartment?

Mrs. Whitworth.

They were living in an apartment--yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did you hear subsequent to that time on television that Oswald and his wife weren't living together?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I heard, yes; you know--after the assassination, I mean, but even at that time I never asked him his name or anything like that. If I had carried out what I usually do, I would have gotten his name, because if they are looking for anything that I don't have didn't have in the store, I would suggest that they let me give them a card, you know, to go to the wholesale house. Had I given them a card to the wholesale house, he would have had to give me his name. You see, I didn't get that far along on it. I mean, you know, and I just didn't---I wished I had now, but she sure was with him, whether she knew where she was going or what she was doing or anything, but she certainly was with him. Even, you know, her dress and all--as far as telling you what color she had on--I could tell you just about how she was dressed. She looked clean but she looked like she was a person that had gotten in the car to come up to town for something and she probably come out of the house with just the dress she had on and a short coat, and the little girl had on some kind of a short coat. It wasn't really cold--it wasn't real cold then and he had on slacks. He didn't have on what I call really work clothes--he wasn't dressed--but he had on a pair of slacks.

Mr. Liebeler.

What kind of shirt did he have on?
Mrs.. WHITWORTH. It was a sport coat, I think, with the collar turned back and he had on a sweater, you know, deal. They weren't dressed, you know, really dressed, but they were dressed good enough to go out, you know, to kind of casual shop or something like that--that kind of shopping.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you absolutely sure that they drove up at first in an auto-

mobile and that they went back out and got into an automobile and drove away?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes; they did.

Mr. Liebeler.

The report that I have of the interview you had with the FBI agents in December indicates that you told them that they went out of the store and got into the car and made a U-turn and drove off east down Irving Boulevard.

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember telling them that?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Well, where I got that--I wouldn't swear that they really went down, you know, turned their car there. Mrs. Hunter told me that they did, you know, and kind of reviewed me at that time, but so many people did that anyway that they went back down the wrong way.
It has been so long now I have, you know, really forgotten whether they did or not, but you know, the color of the car and the make of the car stands out more to me than anything. There was only one correct way for them to go and that was west.

Mr. Liebeler.

You didn't at any time see anybody else with them?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I wouldn't swear to it.

Mr. Liebeler.

You didn't see anybody?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I didn't see anyone no. They didn't get out of the car, let me put it that way.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see the car close enough at any time to see whether there was anybody else sitting in the car?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I could have seen it, but I didn't pay any attention to it. They could have had a driver--I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are sure it wasn't a station wagon that was sitting out there?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I'm not sure-I'm really not, but it does not seem like it was. Had I known all this was coming up I would have took it all down, but you know, people when you are in business, you don't pay a lot of attention to that, but there are incidents that happen that will, you know, be clear in your mind.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you a picture that has been marked Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-A, and I ask you if you recognize anybody in that picture?