Mrs. Whitworth.

been in and out of business there for a number of years and I have lived in Irving all of my life, so I wouldn't say I was a real close friend to him--I just know him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know a young man by the name of Dial Ryder?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I didn't know Dial Ryder.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know Ryder now; have you met him since that time?

Mrs. Whitworth.

No; I haven't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Have you ever discussed this series of events with Mr. Greener?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes; I did discuss it with Mr. Greener over the telephone and Woodrow Greener was out of town. He said at that time he probably was, but he was gone deer hunting, you know, he hunts, and he and his .wife were out of town at that time ,because we talked about it.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did you talk to Mr. Greener about this; do you remember?

Mrs. Whitworth.

When the FBI men came out there and talked to me on the Saturday.

Mr. Liebeler.

On that same Saturday?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you never had any discussion with Mr. Greener at any time about this at all prior to the time in November when the FBI talked to you; is that right?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Not until the FBI talked to me, you know, I didn't talk to him or anything, but I called Woodrow on the telephone and told him and the FBI men were in his store at that time when I called him and that was the only time he told me, but I don't think I was even in town at that time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you read the newspaper, generally speaking?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Which newspapers do you read?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Well, I take them all--I read them all. I take the Dallas Morning News and I take the Times Herald out of Dallas and then I have the Irving papers too and I read them all.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember that shortly after the assassination, around Thanksgiving time, as a matter of fact, there was a story in the Dallas Times Herald to the effect that Oswald had had some work done on his rifle in the Irving Sports Shop?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes; I read that and I also saw it on television.

Mr. Liebeler.

When you saw that, it was also reported on television; is that right?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Yes; it sure did. As well as I can remember it, it showed this Ryder, or whatever his name was, working around there and talking to the men.

Mr. Liebeler.

Who was the first person you ever discussed Oswald's presence in your store with?

Mrs. Whitworth.

I never discussed it until I saw him on television and also his wife. First, when I saw him on television I told my husband, but my husband didn't work in the store, then, he worked at another furniture store on down on the east end of the road, you know, and I told him, I said, "Why, I have seen the fellow somewhere before," and it didn't dawn on me at that minute where. He says, "Well, you have probably seen him in the store." Just like that. I mean, anybody would come .through Irving and be looking for anything like that would more than likely stop in my store quicker than they would any other place.

Mr. Liebeler.

Looking for furniture, you mean?

Mrs. Whitworth.

Well, if he was looking for a gun or anything like that he would stop in there because this sign was a real good sign, you know, it was painted out there, and also it was a good furniture location. 'So, he said, "You probably have," and we didn't discuss it any more until we saw her on television, Mrs. Oswald, and she was leaving the jail or something, with her mother-in-law and had these two babies. I said, "Oh, yes, I remember them real well," and I discussed it again with him and I told him about this and I said that those kids are about the age of Bryan and Jeff and we discussed it again and then I knew definitely he had been in there and I knew that he was the fellow that I talked to, and I said, "Well, he-seemed to be such a nice man." He even