(Testimony of Dial Duwayne Ryder Resumed)
Mr. Liebeler.
this story, although you had admitted that some reporter had called you on the telephone that morning. Is the name Hunter Schmidt familiar to you at all?
Mr. Ryder.
No; it's not.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember whether or not that was the particular newspaper reporter that called you that morning?
Mr. Ryder.
I couldn't say definitely for sure---like I said--I told them I had no comment on it and hung the thing up.
Mr. Liebeler.
In addition to the fact that Mr. Schmidt has so testified, I have been advised that one of Mr. Schmidt's associates was sitting right there in the office at the time Schmidt called you and heard the entire conversation between Schmidt and yourself and he said that Schmidt did talk to you for an extended period of time, or to a person by the name of Dial Ryder, who gave him this information about the gun work being done at the Irving Sports Shop and he said he heard the whole conversation.
Mr. Schmidt has, during the course of his testimony, volunteered to take a polygraph examination on this whole question as to whether or not he talked to you that morning and as to whether or not you gave him the information about the gun ticket and about the three holes that were drilled in the rifle and all the other information that appeared in that newspaper story. I am not here to say myself who is telling the truth, because I don't know, but it is perfectly obvious that one of you is not telling the truth, either Mr. Schmidt or you. I don't know what reasons you would have for not telling the truth, and I don't know what reasons Mr. Schmidt would have for not telling the truth, but I wonder if on reflection and in view of the statements that I have just made to you, if you can ponder this whole question and perhaps refresh your recollection. I don't know whether you talked to this newspaper reporter or not, but in view of the fact that we have this other testimony, I wonder if it would in some way refresh your recollection that in fact you did talk to this man?
Mr. Ryder.
No; like I said, the only people I talked to were Mr. Horton with the FBI and then the Dallas Police Department or the sheriff's department--is the only ones I talked to about this, until, like I told you--the CBS reporters came out and we made the television deal after radios and everything got the thing and then we thought we had it straightened out with them, but as far as that morning, I didn't talk to anybody over the phone about it except I said I had no comment and hung up the receiver and then took the receiver back off of the hook and went on about my business of sleeping on this Sunday morning.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know a woman by the name of Edith Whitworth?
Mr. Ryder.
Let's see---there was a lady from the Washington Press.
Mr. Liebeler.
No; this is a woman who used to run a furniture shop in Irving, which is down on Irving Boulevard.
Mr. Ryder.
No; I don't know her.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know whether Mr. Greener knows her?
Mr. Ryder.
Now, he might--I don't know.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know any woman by the name of Mrs. Gertrude Hunter who also lives in Irving and is a friend of Mrs. Whitworth's?
Mr. Ryder.
No, sir; I don't know them.
Mr. Liebeler.
Are you aware of the fact that just down Irving Boulevard from the Irving Sports Shop, a block and a half or so west, there used to be another gunshop where a man carried guns?
Mr. Ryder.
Well, there was a little place down there where he handled guns--I don't know whether--if he was able to work on them or not, but it was about two blocks down the street or a block and a half or something like that.
Mr. Liebeler.
Toward the west?
Mr. Ryder.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
And do you know that there used to be a used furniture shop that was there?
Mr. Ryder.
Yes; it's still there.
Mr. Liebeler.
But you didn't know the people that ran it?
Mr. Ryder.
No; I didn't.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now, Mr. Schmidt is sitting out here in the front office and I'm going to ask him to come in and have you two gentlemen discuss this problem, see if there is some way we can resolve this story on this telephone conversation.
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