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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 223« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Pamela Mumford)

Mr. Ball.
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
Well. you were shown pictures of A man later on by the Federal Bureau of Investigation agent, were you not?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes.
Mr. Ball.
And they showed you pictures of Oswald, didn't they: Lee Harvey Oswald?
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
You didn't ever see a picture of Oswald?
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
But they showed you pictures of a man, did they not?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes; they showed us two pictures the first time. one picture I was fairly certain was the same gentleman. The other picture. whom they said was the same man, I couldn't give that description--I couldn't say definitely that it was him or even the same man. The second time the FBI official showed me a photo was some weeks or months later, and I could make a definite what is the word I want?
Mr. Ball.
Identification?
Miss MUMFORD. Identification of that picture.
Mr. Ball.
What did you tell the agent?
Miss MUMFORD. Well, that third picture. on the second time he had showed it to me, was, I was certain, the same man.
Mr. Ball.
You mean the elderly Englishman?
Miss MUMFORD. The elderly Englishman.
Mr. Ball.
That you had seen on the bus?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever see this Englishman again?
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
Except this night, or this ride on the bus?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes; that was the only time.
Mr. Ball.
Did they tell you that the Englishman's name was John Howard Bowen?
Miss MUMFORD. No; I don't recall ever being told his name.
Mr. Ball.
Or that he might have had the name Albert Osborne?
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
You don't remember either of those?
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
Was your friend with you when the agent showed you the pictures?
Miss MUMFORD. The first set of pictures, she was still in this country and she was also shown them. The second set of pictures was shown to me after she had left.
Mr. Ball.
When the first set of pictures was shown to your friend Patricia Winston, what did she say?
Miss MUMFORD. If I remember correctly, she felt the same way as I did: that one of the photos was a good likeness. and the other one she couldn't make an identification.
Mr. Ball.
Do you have anything else that you would care to say; any impressions that you obtained from this ride on the bus that you think might be of assistance to us?
Miss MUMFORD. No.
Mr. Ball.
You have told us about all you know about that trip, have you, now?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes.
Mr. Ball.
This will be written up and submitted to you for your signature, I hope this week.
Mr. Dillavou.
You mentioned to me, Pam, something about the frugality of this boy in his travels. I don't know if you want that--
Mr. Ball.
Yes; we would like that.
Miss MUMFORD. Oh, yes; he did say that the Hotel Cuba was a very cheap place to stay, and I think either Patricia or myself made the comment. "Well, that suits us fine because that is the way we do it, too."
That is the only thing I can remember that he said that referred to his way of travel.
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