Mr. Coleman.

So, therefore, by consulting the file, to refresh your recollection, you think that the first time you heard or saw the name Lee Harvey Oswald was in March 1961?

Mr. Seeley.

It is possible, it may have been that I had heard of it before, though, because he did have some publicity, and I usually follow those item, but I don't have any recollection of it.

Mr. Coleman.

What happened in March 1961, that occasioned your knowing or hearing the name Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Seeley.

May I look at the file?

Mr. Coleman.

Certainly.
I take it, sir, you are looking at the file which is the file of the passport--the original passport file of the State Department.

Mr. Seeley.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Coleman.

That is the file that has been given State Department file No. X, is that correct?

Mr. Seeley.

Yes, sir.
The first time my name appears in the file is on a form DS-10, which is a reference slip, and it is addressed to Mr. Cacciatore in PT-F, and to Mr. Seeley, in PT-LS.
It requests to know insofar as I am concerned, should instruction be classified confidential.

Mr. Coleman.

Sir, I will mark for the purposes of this deposition a document as S-1, meaning Seeley Exhibit No. 1, which is the State Department document which already has been marked by the State Department as X-45.

Mr. Seeley.

Yes, sir.
(The document referred to was marked Seeley Exhibit No. 1 for identification.)

Mr. Coleman.

Who is the reference slip dated March 28, 1961, from?

Mr. Seeley.

Mr. Kupiec.

Mr. Coleman.

To two persons, and you are one of the two persons, Mr. Seeley, is that correct?

Mr. Seeley.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Coleman.

I Show you the document which has been marked as S-1 and ask you is that a copy of the document you referred to?

Mr. Seeley.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Coleman.

I take it that you got this because someone asked whether the instructions should be classified as confidential.

Mr. Seeley.

Yes, sir. I don't have an independent recollection of this, but I assume that it is referring to this instruction which is State Department's document X-47, which had been classified as Official Only.

Mr. Coleman.

Sir, I show you a document which has already been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 969, and ask you whether these were the instructions that were attached to S-1.

Mr. Seeley.

So far as I am able to determine, I don't have an independent recollection, but looking at the formation of the file and the fact that this was not sent, and I know that there was another one that was sent, I believe it is the same document.

Mr. Coleman.

And you were asked as to whether it should be classified as confidential?

Mr. Seeley.

Yes. sir.

Mr. Coleman.

What, if anything, did you do?

Mr. Seeley.

I don't know. I have no recollection of what action I took on that particular aspect of it.

Mr. Coleman.

You don't recall ever talking to Miss Waterman or anyone else in the Department as to what form the proposed instruction should take?

Mr. Seeley.

No. I don't know whether I even know Miss Waterman. I know Mr. Kupiec. and I probably know Miss Waterman, but I don't have recollection of what she looks like.

Mr. Coleman.

Did you ever discuss with Mr. Kupiec as to what form the instruction should take?

Mr. Seeley.

No. sir. This instruction was drafted by Miss Waterman. ,and it was sent up for clearance to PTL, Mr. Johnson. I presume that when it went to either Mr. Cacciatore or Mr. Kupiec, I put my name on for the clearance