Mr. Jenner.

You will recall, Mr. Stuckey, that you were good enough when I was in New Orleans to take me over to the radio station, what is the name of it again?

Mr. Stuckey.

WDSU.

Mr. Jenner.

WDSU, and there was played in my presence and in my hearing a tape transcript of your 37-minute interview with Oswald on the 17th of August 1963. Is the tape which I have in my hand, marked Stuckey Exhibit No. 4, the tape that was played that evening in my presence?

Mr. Stuckey.

It is.

Mr. Jenner.

And it is in the same condition now as it was at the time I heard it?

Mr. Stuckey.

Exactly.

Mr. Jenner.

It is in the same condition now as it was when it was prepared by Cosimo's?

Mr. Stuckey.

Correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Subject to my understanding with you that you will receive a communication from Mr. Rankin respecting the preservation of this tape against commercial use, I offer Stuckey Exhibit No. 4 in evidence. I am going to return the tape to you so that there will be no question in your mind but what, in the meantime, until you do receive Mr. Rankin's letter, that the tape has been in your possession, and no one has made, surreptitiously or otherwise by accident or any fashion, a copy of it.

Mr. Stuckey.

Very good.

Mr. Jenner.

I think I will state for the record, Mr. Reporter, that in an off-the-record discussion with Mr. Stuckey respecting the audio tape of the interview of August 17, 1963, Stuckey Exhibit No. 4, Mr. Stuckey has agreed that he will supply or return, let us say, Exhibit No. 4 to us upon his receipt of a communication from Mr. Rankin, as counsel for the Commission, that the tape when redelivered to us and becomes part of the record of the Commission, will not be subjected to use for any commercial purpose and reproduction.
Mr. STUCKEY: I would like to ask for one qualification.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mr. Stuckey.

I would like my attorney to read over the letter before

Mr. Jenner.

Of course.

Mr. Stuckey.

Before sending you the tape, and in case we suggest possibly some changes---

Mr. Jenner.

I think that is wise. Since I am returning the tape to you, why, I am sure you won't send it back unless your counsel is satisfied that you are reasonably protected, because we appreciate the fact that this is personal property and that it has some commercial value to you and, frankly, we would be a little bit surprised if you were not concerned about preserving that.
I think that is all. Is there anything that you would like to add, that you think might be helpful to the Commission in its investigation of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy?

Mr. Stuckey.

I think we have covered just about everything.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mr. Stuckey.

Certainly all the hard facts.

Mr. Jenner.

What is that?

Mr. Stuckey.

I say certainly all the hard facts. The rest is just a lot of speculation and such.

Mr. Jenner.

One other thing. Give Bringuier's physical description, describe Bringuier physically to me, please.

Mr. Stuckey.

Describe Oswald?

Mr. Jenner.

No; Bringuier.

Mr. Stuckey.

He is about 5 feet 10 inches. He is not particularly dark-skinned, although his hair is black, his eyes are brown. He has the beginnings of a paunch, although his build is generally rather slender; he wears glasses, smokes cigars. I can't think of a thing else.

Mr. Jenner.

OK. I guess that is about it.

Horace Elroy Twiford