(Testimony of William Kirk Stuckey)
Mr. Jenner.
we now have a transcript of, which is Exhibit No. 2, and boiled that down to 4 1/2 minutes?
Mr. Stuckey.
Correct.
Mr. Jenner.
And that was a radio broadcast?
Mr. Stuckey.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
That evening. All right. Was that your last contact with Mr. Oswald?
Mr. Stuckey.
No; it was not.
Mr. Jenner.
Following the broadcast did you have any further conversation with him, that evening?
Mr. Stuckey.
That evening; no. The only thing that did transpire was I told him that I was going to talk to the news director to see if the news director was interested in running the entire 37-minute tape later, and I told him to get in touch with me, Oswald to get in touch with me Monday, and I would let him know what the news director said, and that was all the conversation we had that night, and he went his way.
I did just that the next Monday, I called the news director and asked him if he had heard the tape, and he said no. I asked him if he was interested in running it. I told him I thought it was pretty interesting, and he said, for some reason, he thought that it would be more spectacular a little bit--there would be more public interest if we did not run this tape at all, but instead arrange a second program, a debate panel show, with some local anti-Communists on there to refute some of his arguments, which I did. Which I did--I arranged a debate show for a regular radio feature that WDSU has called "Conversation Carte Blanche." This is a 25-minute public affairs program that runs daily. It is almost always interviews of people in the news locally or this sort of thing.
I was in charge of arranging the panel, so I picked Mr. Edward S. Butler.
Mr. Jenner.
Tell us who he is.
Mr. Stuckey.
He is the Executive Director of the Information Council of the Americas in New Orleans.
Mr. Jenner.
What is that organization?
Mr. Stuckey.
It is an anti-Communist propaganda organization. Their principal activity is to take tape-recorded interviews with Cuban refugees or refugees from Iron Curtain countries, and distribute these tapes which are naturally, it goes without saying, these tapes are very strongly anti-Communist, and they distribute these tapes to radio stations throughout Latin America. As I recall, they came to have over 100 stations using these tapes regularly.
Well, Mr. Butler is a friend of mine. I knew him as a columnist, and it just seemed like
Mr. Jenner.
He was an articulate and knowledgeable man in this area to which he directs his attention?
Mr. Stuckey.
Yes; so I asked him to be one of the panelist on the show, which he accepted, and, incidentally, I let him hear the 37-minute tape in advance; and for the other panelist I asked Mr. Bringuier, Mr. Carlos Bringuier, that we mentioned earlier, as ,being the man who led me to Oswald--I asked him to appear on the show to give it a little Cuban flavor.
And then Oswald called me after it was arranged, and I told him we were going to arrange the show and would he be interested, and he said, yes, indeed, and then he said, "How many of you am I going to have to fight?" That was his version of saying how many are on the panel.
Mr. Jenner.
He said this to you?
Mr. Stuckey.
Yes; in a jocular way.
Mr. Jenner.
Where did this take place, on the telephone?
Mr. Stuckey.
On the telephone; yes. This was Monday or Tuesday, the 19th or the 20th of August, whenever it was that I had informed him of the show.
Mr. Jenner.
Had he called you?
Mr. Stuckey.
Yes; I gave him my office number so he called me at a prearranged time. He was very punctual, very punctual. He was always there on time, all those calls came on time. So I informed him about this debate show and he agreed. He said he thought that would be interesting.
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