Mrs. Gibson.

Between when he lost his job and got his job?

Mr. Jenner.

That is right.

Mrs. Gibson.

That is probably where she stayed then. I am not sure.

Mr. Jenner.

The last day he worked at Leslie Welding was the 8th of October 1962. He became employed and went to work for Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall on the 12th of October 1962.

Mrs. Gibson.

That probably was when she stayed with us, then. I just don't have any recollection of when it was.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any recollection that she came to stay with you, the reason why? Was she having difficulty with Oswald? Was that the reason, or was it because he was out of work?

Mrs. Gibson.

I think it was because he was out of work. I don't think they had any money. I think my father lent them money, didn't he? I don't know. Somebody must have given them money. It was Bouhe, that is who it was who lent them money.

Mr. Jenner.

It was only 4 days, Mrs. Gibson.

Mrs. Gibson.

No; but he had to have money to get started. He had to have money to stay at the YMCA. He had to have money to get started, and I know who gave him money. George Bouhe did.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; George Bouhe did, there is no question about that.

Mrs. Gibson.

Because I recall that. He gave him money, and he also had the debt to pay to the American Embassy.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any recollection as to where Oswald stayed prior to the time that he went to the YMCA on the 15th of October, that is between the 8th of October and the 15th of October? That is a week.

Mrs. Gibson.

No; all I know is he never did stay at our place overnight ever.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall when you were looking for this address, was it an address on North Beckley?

Mrs. Gibson.

It is possible that it was.

Mr. Jenner.

Does that stimulate your recollection at all?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; it doesn't. I just know that Beckley is near the river.

Mr. Jenner.

And you were looking in the area.

Mrs. Gibson.

Near the river; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, between the 19th of October and the 3d of November, which was the day you picked up Oswald and Marina and the baby and took them to the Elsbeth Street apartment, do you know where Oswald was staying?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; but it was probably in that area where I was looking, you know. I am not even sure who I was looking for, but it seems possible. I don't know anybody else in Oak Cliff, you know. If that is anywhere near the Jaggars Co., and I think it is, that is probably where, and who we were looking for.

Mr. Jenner.

Was Marina taken to the dentist to your knowledge other 'than the first period, the first visit in August of 1962?

Mrs. Gibson.

I think she might have had another appointment. That possibly could have been the other reason why she stayed with me, but I am not positive. It seems to me you know by the dentist records if she had. I remember she had teeth pulled. Now, how many--and, as I recall, those first appointments led to a later appointment after her mouth had healed. But I am not sure.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Marina stay at the Halls' on more than one occasion, that is periods?

Mrs. Gibson.

I don't believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it just one period?

Mrs. Gibson.

I think it was one period.

Mr. Jenner.

Did it have anything to do with Mrs. Hall's accident?

Mrs. Gibson.

Why Marina stayed there, you mean, or why she left?

Mr. Jenner.

Why she went there in the first instance.

Mrs. Gibson.

No; Mrs. Hall had not had her accident when Marina first moved in.

Mr. Jenner.

Was Mrs. Hall aware that Marina had stayed at your home?

Mrs. Gibson.

I think so. In fact, I could almost say positively she must have been aware of it.

Mr. Jenner.

What leads you to say that?

Mrs. Gibson.

Well, I mean she never knew that Marina and I knew each other.