(Testimony of Carlos Bringuier)
Mr. Bringuier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
And who is that?
Mr. Bringuier.
Well, the picture look like that is Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. Liebeler.
And it shows him handing out a leaflet?
Mr. Bringuier.
"Hands Off Cuba."
Mr. Liebeler.
Reading off "Hands Off Cuba," does it not? Does that leaflet look similar to the leaflet you saw Oswald handing out?
Mr. Bringuier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you recognize that man obviously as Oswald, don't you?
Mr. Bringuier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
I don't think I have any more questions at this point, but if you have anything else that you want to add, why, you can go right ahead and do it. You have done most of the testifying without my help and you have done very well.
Mr. Bringuier.
Thank you. I don't know if you had already the information that the Cuban Student Directorate Headquarters in Miami gave to the press on January 31 about Jack Ruby's second trip to Cuba in 1962.
Mr. Liebeler.
I am not familiar with it offhand. What is it?
Mr. Bringuier.
Well, you could check the name and the date of the newspaper. It is the same "Diario Las Americas" from Miami, February 1, 1964, information from the Cuban Student Directorate Headquarters in Miami telling that Jack Ruby went to Cuba at the end of 1962 through Mexico, and he was in Cuba until the beginning of 1963. After that I talked to them by long-distance telephone, long-distance call, and they informed me that they already have turned over to the FBI all the proof about this trip from Ruby going to Cuba.
Mr. Liebeler.
What is the name of the person that you spoke to in Miami?
Mr. Bringuier.
The person to whom I spoke in Miami, his name is Joaquin Martinez de Pinillos.
Mr. Liebeler.
And he indicated that the information concerning Ruby's trip had already been given to the FBI?
Mr. Bringuier.
To the FBI. That is right.
Mr. Liebeler.
Can you think of anything else that you think we should know about at this moment?
Mr. Liebeler.
Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Liebeler.
Back on the record. Going back briefly to the time at which you and Oswald and your other friends were arrested and taken to the police station here in New Orleans on August 9, 1963, were you interviewed at the police station by any agent of the FBI?
Mr. Bringuier.
Well, there were two plain-clothing agents that identified (themselves) as a member of the FBI, I believe, and they were questioning us on the generalities of Oswald and all, and when I was explaining to them and all, they had some kind of confusion sometime because they didn't know if we were Communists, and I had to explain to them three or four times that we were not the Communists and that Oswald was the one that was doing that in favor of Castro.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know whether they interviewed Oswald?
Mr. Bringuier.
I think. I thought that they interviewed Oswald, but not in front of me. They were talking to him in front of me, but when they were ready to interview Oswald, they moved to other place to interview him.
Mr. Liebeler.
You had to point out to them several times that it was Oswald who was the Castro provocateur, so to say, and not you? Is that correct?
Mr. Bringuier.
Yes, sir; because they were asking to us in one way as if we were Communists or pro-Castro, and I had to explain to them in three or four different times that we were Cubans but we were not pro-Castro and that we were the ones in the fight against Oswald.
Mr. Liebeler.
I have no more questions at this time, Mr. Bringuier. If you can't think of anything else that you want to add now--can you think of anything else?
Mr. Bringuier.
No, sir; I don't.
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