Mr. Bringuier.

that the FBI, one agent from the FBI, had been in the bar and told them that if they will see those two guy to call them. This person, the brother of the owner of the bar, he gave to me at that moment the number of the plate of the automobile, but he didn't get from what State. I called the FBI, because this person don"t know to speak English. That was the reason why he came to me. I talked to the person in the FBI. I explained what was going on, but looked like this person on the telephone didn't know nothing about that matter and he took the--I believe that he took the notes of what I was telling to him, and that was all.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did this happen, before the assassination or after?

Mr. Bringuier.

I called before the assassination, but I didn't know that that was any connection with Oswald, because they didn't told me at the Havana Bar that one of them was the one that was with Oswald in the Havana Bar, and learn that Oswald was one day over there with one Mexican, the brother of the owner told me, "Yes. You remember those two Mexicans? One of them was the one who was with Oswald in the bar."

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, tell me approximately when you called the FBI about this.

Mr. Bringuier.

Well, that was between the 15th of August and the 30th of August, because that was when the owner of the Havana Bar was on vacation. The brother was the one who was at the front of the business at that moment, and we figure that the owner of the Havana Bar went on vacation from August 15 to August 30 and that had to happen in that period of time.

Mr. Liebeler.

As I understand it, some time between August 15 and August 30 the brother of the owner of the Havana Bar told you that he had seen a man that had been formerly identified to him by the FBI, and the FBI had asked this man, the brother of the owner of the bar, to notify them if he saw this man?

Mr. Bringuier.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And he had seen this man together with another man driving in an automobile somewhere here in New Orleans? Is that correct?

Mr. Bringuier.

But the question is this: The FBI was according to the information that the brother of the owner of the Havana Bar told me, the FBI was looking for both men, not for one.

Mr. Liebeler.

For both of them?

Mr. Bringuier.

For both of them, but just one of them was in the Havana Bar with Oswald, not both.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is the name of the brother of the owner of the Havana Bar?

Mr. Bringuier.

Ruperto Pena, and the one who saw Oswald in the bar--that was the one who served the lemonade to him--Evaristo Rodriguez.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you report this to the FBI when you talked to them after the assassination?

Mr. Bringuier.

After the assassination?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Bringuier.

I report this to the Secret Service. I believe so. [Producing document.] I have here a copy of the letter that I send to the headquarters on November 27, 1963, informing here to the headquarters the information that I gave to the Secret Service about the man who was working in the Pap's Supermarket, that he was going to Delgado Trades School, I believe with the name of Charles, and I have here that I gave to the Secret Service this information during that day.

Mr. Liebeler.

May I see that? [Document exhibited to counsel.]

Mr. Liebeler.

It is in Spanish?

Mr. Bringuier.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Liebeler.

You have given me a draft of a document entitled "Open Letter to People of New Orleans," which I have marked "Exhibit No. 4" to your deposition taken here in New Orleans on April 7, 1964, and I have initialed it in the lower right hand corner. Would you initial it, please?

Mr. Liebeler.

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