Mr. Liebeler.

What about suburban offices? We have noted that a specific search was made of the Irving office, Are there other suburban offices at which Oswald could have received money orders, which would not have been uncovered by the search which was made?

Mr. Semingsen.

Yes; it is possible he could have received money orders at such places, for example, at Garland or Grand Prairie.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is there only one office in Irving?

Mr. Semingsen.

Yes; there is one office in Irving.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know whether or not the records of received money orders for suburban areas of Dallas are kept in the local suburban office or kept in the Dallas main office?

Mr. Semingsen.

They are kept at the branch office.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you are absolutely certain that the records relating to the money orders received at the Dallas branch office are either kept at the Dallas main office or would the search that was made include a search of the branch offices; is that correct?

Mr. Semingsen.

Yes; and in addition, Irving, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

You mentioned a moment ago the fact that one of your employees, Mr. C. A. Hamblen, who is presently a night manager in the Dallas main office---is that correct?

Mr. Semingsen.

I am not sure what his title is.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mr. Hamblen said that he thought he recognized Oswald as a customer. in that office, is that correct?

Mr. Semingsen.

Yes. He had indicated that he had thought he had seen Mr. Oswald or someone that looked like him in the office on some occasion, either receiving the money order or sending a telegram.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you tell us the background of Mr. Hamblen's involvement in this matter. In your own words tell us the story of the events that prompted this search. What investigation was made as to Mr. Hamblen's activities, and what conclusion the company came to in this respect?

Mr. Semingsen.

Perhaps. it would be best to get that testimony direct from Mr. Wilcox. However, I did participate in a very thorough questioning of Mr. Hamblen and can furnish you with this information.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you indicate for us briefly, and we will perhaps go into greater detail with Mr. Wilcox after lunch.

Mr. Semingsen.

Sometime shortly after the killing of Oswald by Ruby, which was shown on television, Mr. Hamblen indicated or mentioned to Mr. Wilcox that he thought he had seen someone who appeared to look-like Oswald in our main office, either receiving a money order or sending a telegram. When Mr. Wilcox learned of this information, he had a search made of our files for certain dates which he is in better position to testify on.

Mr. Liebeler.

He caused the search to be made for a telegram that might have been sent by Oswald or money order received by Oswald; is that correct?

Mr. Semingsen.

That is correct. There were two specific instances in which Mr. Hamblen thought that he had seen Oswald in the office. One having to do with a received money order, and the other instance having to do with the filing of a telegram. The search made by Mr. Wilcox revealed no such transactions.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was this search made before or after Mr. Hamblen's views became known to the press?

Mr. Semingsen.

The first search was made before the information reached the press. The second and more intensive search was made following appearance in the press concerning the alleged filing of telegrams and receiving of money orders by Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

As I understand the chronology of events here, Mr. Hamblen first indicated to Mr. Wilcox that he, Hamblen, thought he recalled Oswald having been in the Western Union office, the main office Dallas; is that correct?

Mr. Semingsen.

That is correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

Subsequent to that time, as I understand it, Mr. Wilcox observed a story in the newspaper that indicated that Oswald had been in the office and had received a small amount of money by telegram money order; is that correct?