(Testimony of Carlos Bringuier)
Mr. Bringuier.
Okay.
Mr. Liebeler.
And I will also speak to the Secret Service about it and see if we can find such a picture. According to The Secret Service, one of these gentlemen has been identified as Mr. Charles Hall Steele, Jr.
Mr. Bringuier.
He was working in the Pap's Super Market here in New Orleans. I believe so, that he was working over there. There was one Cuban who, when saw his face in the television, called me to tell me that, and I called the Secret Service and let them know.
Mr. Liebeler.
Mr. Steele will be in the office here this afternoon, so we will have an opportunity to determine if it is the same man that was marked with the arrow in Pizzo Exhibit 453-A or not.
So you went over to the International Trade Mart on this day in an attempt to find Oswald, but you were not successful? Is that correct?
Mr. Bringuier.
That is correct. After that my friend showed to me one of the leaflets that Oswald was handing out in front of the International Trade Mart, the yellow leaflets, and I found something interesting at this point. There was a difference among the leaflets that he was handing out on August 16 in the International Trade Mart and the leaflets that he was handing out on Canal Street on August 9.
Mr. Liebeler.
What was the difference?
Mr. Bringuier.
The leaflet he was handing out on Canal Street August 9 didn't have his name of Oswald, at least the ones that I saw. They have the name A. J. Hidell, and one post office box here in New Orleans and the address, and the leaflets that he was handing out on August 16 have the name L. H. Oswald, 4907 Magazine Street. In the yellow leaflets he was offering free literature and lectures, and he was asking to the people to join the New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, and at the end he said, "Everyone welcome." My friend asked to me if I think that it would be good that he will go to Oswald's house posing as a pro-Castro and try to get as much information as possible from Oswald. I told him yes; and that night he went to Oswald's house with the leaflets.
Mr. Liebeler.
What day was this now? Do you remember?
Mr. Bringuier.
August 16. I believe so. I think that. I am sure.
Mr. Liebeler.
That was the same day that----
Mr. Bringuier.
That he was distributing the leaflets.
Mr. Liebeler.
The second time?
Mr. Bringuier.
The second time. The first time was a Friday, August 9, and the second time I think that was another Friday, August 16.
My friend went to Oswald's house and he was talking to Oswald for about 1 hour inside his house, in the porch of the house, and there was when we found that Oswald had some connection with Russia, or something like that, because the daughter came to the porch and Oswald spoke to her in Russian, and my friend heard that language and he asked Oswald if that was Russian, and Oswald told him yes, that he was attending Tulane University and that he was studying language, that that was the reason why he speak Russian. He give to my friend an application to become a member of the New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee.
After the assassination my friend turned [over] to the Secret Service one copy of the application. I have here one, one copy [producing document]. This is a photocopy. My friend keep the original.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you have another copy of this?
Mr. Bringuier.
No; that is the only one that I have. He has the original. If you want to keep that, for me it is no trouble, because always I could take more copies.
Mr. Liebeler.
I see. Your friend still has the original?
Mr. Bringuier.
The original; that is right.
Mr. Liebeler.
Well, let's mark this one as "Exhibit 2" to your deposition. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Liebeler.
Let the record show that we asked Mr. Bringuier to initial a picture which we discussed before on the record, and that picture, which is a picture of a street scene in front of the International Trade Mart has been
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