Mr. Jenner.

One time?

Mr. Hutchison.

One time. Yes. There was a Wednesday evening, he and his wife and an elderly lady were shopping in midcounters and I was stocking around a corner and I heard this blurt--uh--statement in foreign tongue. And, naturally, that would arouse your curiosity to hear somebody speaking--now, I know Spanish, and I recognize German and I recognize French--and it wasn't any of those. So, I immediately came around the counter and he was taking something away from his---the woman he was with and putting it back on the shelf and talking to her in this language.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your impression as to what he was attempting to convey to her?

Mr. Hutchison.

That he didn't want her to have it---that he took it away from her. He still had it--he still had it in her hand--I mean, she had it in her hand and he took it away from her and put it back on the shelf.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, this was in the afternoon?

Mr. Hutchison.

That was late in the evening, sir, between--between, I would say, between 6:45 and 7:30. Because I close at 8:30 and I recognize that it was earlier. They were buying then what you would say a complete bill of groceries. They had several items in the basket.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. You have the---I don't do much supermarket shopping--but it's a cart with wheels?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; a cart with wheels.

Mr. Jenner.

Self-service?

Mr. Hutchison.

Self-service. Yes,. sir. All my store is self-service, meat included; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.
You said, "This man and his wife." What led you to say that this lady or woman was his wife?

Mr. Hutchison.

Well, uh---later, when her picture came on television, I--uh--I recognized her.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, when you use the pronoun "her," you're now referring to whom?

Mr. Hutchison.

To his wife.

Mr. Jenner.

Marina Oswald?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes. Marina Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Would you describe, as best you can, your present recollection of what this man looked like?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes He was--uh--around 5 foot 10 or 10 1/2; he had a very, I would say--impressive look about him. It was always, to me, uh--to her--at that time it was a glare. He was glaring at her. And, of course, when anyone glares, their facial expressions tighten up and you just naturally observe someone like that. And it looked like well, you wouldn't say a fit of anger, but a disgust or something out of the ordinary.

Mr. Jenner.

Irritation?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes; irritation would be the word. Yes. It wasn't, "You don't need that," or---of course, I couldn't understand Russian. I heard Russian of course when I was in the service in Seattle, but I didn't recognize the language. But he was telling her and it was in irritation--and he put it back on the shelf.

Mr. Jenner.

By the way, I might do this at the moment--what is your age?

Mr. Hutchison.

I'm 50.

Mr. Jenner.

And are you a native of the Dallas area?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; I was raised right down here at Waxahachie, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And your formal education was what elementary school, high school?

Mr. Hutchison.

High school; high school education, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Then, you spent some time in the service, I gather?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it, you make a practice of trying to obtain a picture in your mind of all your customers?

Mr. Hutchison.

Of every customer; yes, sir.