Mr. Jenner.

And would you just tell me, in general, the nature of your market or store?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; I have a complete supermarket, sir--retail grocery, meat, fresh fish, produce and all necessary food items.

Mr. Jenner.

Is the Paine family or Mrs. Paine a customer of your market?

Mr. Hutchison.

Not a regular customer--just a drop in.

Mr. Jenner.

She does, from time to time, come by the store and purchase food stuffs?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you acquainted with Airs. Paine--that is, would you recognize you saw her?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; I would recognize her if I saw her.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have had occasion to speak with her?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; just to speak. I try to salute everyone that comes in.

Mr. Jenner.

Naturally.

Mr. Hutchison.

That's just the business.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know where her home is located in Irving, Tex.?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you locate your market with respect to her home?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; you would turn east a block and a half--turn right, and I'm 8 blocks due south.

Mr. Jenner.

You turn east a block and a half--and what cross street is that?

Mr. Hutchison.

That is Storey, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you would go down Storey south----

Mr. Hutchison.

To Shady Grove.

Mr. Jenner.

To Shady Grove?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Approximately how many blocks?

Mr. Hutchison.

It's 8 blocks from Fifth to Shady Grove.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Do you have a large parking lot area?

Mr. Hutchison.

Well, I would consider it fairly large; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Paine has testified with respect to attempting to teach Lee Oswald to drive an automobile, and that she went to a supermarket area, which she said was approximately 8 blocks from her home---it took her about 4 minutes, 4 1/2 minutes or 5 minutes to drive there 4 minutes, I guess.

Mr. Hutchison.

I don't believe she could teach on my driveway because my driveway is three-way parking, and I don't have a lot to where she could turn, feasibly, around.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.
This was, she said, on Sunday afternoons when there were no vehicles on the lot.

Mr. Hutchison.

Well, I'm open on Sunday so she----

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, you are?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; I'm open on Sunday. So she couldn't--my parking lot is not filled every Sunday, but I don't believe she would have practiced on my parking lot. It would have been noticed--I would say that. Now, I work until around 3 o'clock on every Sunday.

Mr. Jenner.

Every Sunday?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; so it would have had to have been after then and, feasibly, I don't believe she could teach anyone to drive in my parking lot.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. Were you aware that sometime in the fall of 1963, that a lady was residing with Mrs. Paine who was a Russian emigre?

Mr. Hutchison.

No, sir; no, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you aware in the fall of 1963, that the man we now know as Lee Harvey Oswald was visiting in the Paine home on weekends?

Mr. Hutchison.

I couldn't--I •couldn't say that he was visiting there. All I can say, Mr. Jennet, is that he came into the store and bought items like what I remember so vividly is that it was milk and cinnamon rolls early in the morning.

Mr. Jenner.

Milk and cinnamon rolls?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; in the morning--early. When you're not busy in