Mr. Shasteen.

or six times was in succession either, it might have been--he may have missed some haircuts and one or two in between somewhere in there.

Mr. Jenner.

That is, you mean he might have had his hair cut somewhere else?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I'm just trying to figure out this 22d and the 8th--did this hair-cutting go back into the summer?

Mr. Shasteen.

You know, that's--like I say, that's a saying--to point back, and you know, just to say that that is the first time this guy has come in here I just can't pinpoint the first time. In other words, it has been hard and I have tried to think, especially after I got that call yesterday evening to come over here. I tried to run that back through my mind and I wouldn't say when was the first time he was in there and of course we have talked about it--me and the barbers, and it seemed to me like there was a dead spot in there. Some time maybe a month or 6 weeks that we might not have saw him, be the first time I cut his hair, but the last three haircuts--it seemed to me like he was pretty regular.

Mr. Jenner.

What?

Mr. Shasteen.

He was pretty regular--at the last three.

Mr. Jenner.

So, if you had a dead spot, allowing for--let's say getting a hair-cut somewhere else occasionally, or not coming in precisely at the end of every 2-week period and having in mind that your present recollection is at least five or six occasions, that would run it back into the summertime?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; it was. In other words, 2 or 8 or 4 months that we had been seeing him, but I don't know just exactly to the date or nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

On how many of these occasions would you say---does your recollection serve you--as to whether he was accompanied by this 14-year-old boy?

Mr. Shasteen.

Twice in other words--the only times I remember seeing the boy was twice when he was with him. He was with him the night he got the haircut, the last time he was in the shop, and he was with him before that, the time before that this kid was with him. The two last times he was in the shop, this boy was with him, and that's the only time I ever saw the boy with him, but then about--in other words, what I am saying, he came in on Friday, was we'll say it is the 8th there and then a week from this coming Monday the boy was in and got a haircut, but Oswald wasn't with him. The boy came in by himself and that tries to contradict what I said that I don't think he lived in Irving, but why I said I don't think he lived in Irving, I have never saw him before and I have been there 4 years and I have seen so many kids grow up and I know their names, but I know their faces, but I just have never saw him before, and that's one of those times that you are sorry that you, like I said, let your temper get away. Since then I have really wished--if I had done something, because this kid in my estimation, even though he is warped in his thinking, and I think he is warped, he could be helped if somebody could get ahold of him, but I was the one that had an opportunity to try to and I let it slip.

Mr. Jenner.

What do you charge for a haircut?

Mr. Shasteen.

$1.25.

Mr. Jenner.

And that is cash on the barrelhead, isn't it?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir. I tell you that much--like somebody comes in and wants to know if they can get a free haircut, and when somebody goes to giving you something, you had better watch out--you had better be careful.

Mr. Jenner.

And you manage the till?

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, no, sir; each one of us, we all have our same drawers. I don't have a cash register, we have drawers, and that way, if they give the wrong change back, it's not anything out of my pocket.

Mr. Jenner.

You cut hair and you have two----

Mr. Shasteen.

I have one full time and one part time.
Mr. JENNER. You have three chairs?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

On the occasions you saw this man would you describe his appearance so far as his attire is concerned? How was he dressed?

Mr. Shasteen.

The best I remember is that he had on some kind of coveralls, nearly every time he came in.