Mr. Shasteen.

that, I know one thing I should, as Mr. Odum told me, I should have found out where he lived, where he went to school or something, but I didn't do it. It just made me so mad the thing I wanted him to do was get out of there.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Odum is the FBI agent?

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, he's one of them, and I know Mr. Odum--he came back. He wasn't the first one that came to talk to me, but he has come back several times and I met him several times--I don't know, I will be honest with you--I don't--I know how to call him at any time, but that's where your old temper gets away with you. I realize now that I should have just, when the kid said that, instead of saying anything back to him--I didn't have to agree with him, but I could have found out where he lived, what he did and that kind of thing, but you know it had to take something like this before it wakes up some of us and I never give it a thought.
Just like Oswald--I owned the shop and naturally I wanted to see every head of hair come in there that will, but the thing of it is--a guy like Oswald and that kid--you just disagree with them so much that you hope they don't ever come back and that's the attitude I felt, but I know I was wrong about it, trot it's done and there ain't nothing I can do about it.
I just have watched and watched and I don't know a soul to ask, because Oswald is dead and he's the only one I ever saw that kid with--he is the only one that I ever saw that kid with and I don't remember seeing him since that time I don't know who he was any more than nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

How many times--you personally, now, without someone else having told you the boy was in the shop, how many times do you recall when he was in your shop?

Mr. Shasteen.

The 14-year-old boy?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Shasteen.

Three times--I know. In other words, I know he came with Oswald the night I'm talking about when he wanted to know where I was going and I went to the back door. You see, I seen them coming in and I did hurry to get out the back door.

Mr. Jenner.

The boy came in?

Mr. Shasteen.

He was with him that night and he was with him one other time.

Mr. Jenner.

Can you fix that particular time?

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, it was a couple of weeks and maybe 3 weeks before that night.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me the night you say you were going out to the football game when was that?

Mr. Shasteen.

It was Friday night and this was the last time Oswald came in and I'm just saying this as near as I think, but I think it was--in other words--was it Thursday or Friday that the President was killed?

Mr. Jenner.

Friday the 22d.

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, it was probably 2 weeks before that.

Mr. Jenner.

Two weeks before that?

Mr. Shasteen.

And it was about Monday night before that when the kid--it could be a week's difference there, but I don't think it is.

Mr. Jenner.

The 22d was on a Friday. This football game incident occurred, you think, 2 weeks prior?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

That would be the evening of the 8th of November?

Mr. Shasteen.

I believe that's right, just as near right as I can get it.

Mr. Jenner.

That was a high school football game on Friday night, as I remember?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; like I say, it could have possibly been 3 weeks prior to that, but I'm almost sure it wasn't. I'm so nearly sure I would say it was almost for sure.

Mr. Jenner.

It could possibly have been the 1st of November but you are pretty sure that it was the 8th?

Mr. Shasteen.

I just nearly knew it was the 8th, I think it was the 8th and I'll tell you why I think it was the 8th.
Mr. JENNER, All right.