Mr. Barnhorst.

personal account, and for just general transients that pass through, we have a group account. We just put the last name and the amount paid and whether or not they paid a membership fee. And, I might mention he didn't pay a membership fee when he came in. There is only two ways a person can pay that and that is either be in the service or have a membership card and I don't think he was registered as a member. He may have tried to pass himself off as a service-man, but that's just in passing--that's not on the record--but--them we make this daily report which is what I saw his name on last night. That is a long sheet and it has a list of room numbers in numerical order and then the name of the person who checked into that room that day and anybody who checked out of the room that day, and any transfers.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Hulen, when he testified a few moments ago, testified with respect to his having checked over receipts showing payment for lodging and he assembled a list and he is going to obtain photostatic copies of them and return them this afternoon and return with them. Are you returning to the YMCA after you leave here?

Mr. Barnhorst.

No, I can--it's just across the street.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, I would, appreciate it if you would speak with Mr. Hulen who made copies of the entries from the records--- I would like to have in addition to the copies of the receipts, photostatic copies of the registration card you have mentioned.

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And this is a check-in card, did you call it a check in card?

Mr. Barnhorst.

A transient register card, and do you want the daily report?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Barnhorst.

How about this one in our ledger book?

Mr. Jenner.

I would like that as well.

Mr. Barnhorst.

Because the clerk would be Mr. Michaels, depending on what night of the week it was. Probably Mr. Michaels--chances are it was he that made out that report. He is not with us now, but he didn't report any membership fee paid at the time.

Mr. Jenner.

And that would indicate that none was paid?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there a difference in charge or rate for a room depending upon whether you are a member of the YMCA or a serviceman?

Mr. Barnhorst.

From what I know, Mr. Oswald he should have paid $3.75 or $2.25 for a room, 50 cents for membership and $1 for the key deposit. No doubt he paid the room rent because that's on the record and the key deposit or else he wouldn't have gotten a room, but the key deposit isn't listed in the ledger at all. It is a separate account because we refund. it and in the ledger we list memberships and we separate that from the key deposits. Because it is in a separate account. Now, I didn't see any membership fee by his name.

Mr. Jenner.

But does an ex-serviceman receive this reduced rate?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Not if he has been out a minute or more, at least I never give it to him. Now, I always check the ID cards. Mr. Barker, I believe, does not, but of course any serviceman could rattle off his service number 20 years after he got out and I found that out quite early so I have been checking them and I have had several fellows who were trying to get away with it--they usually had forgotten it or say they would be back in a minute and they don't come back and it was embarrassing to me, and Mr. Barker has been there a long time. He wouldn't write up a membership unless he was a serviceman.

Mr. Jenner.

These registration cards show----

Mr. Barnhorst.

They don't show which one it is.

Mr. Jenner.

Would they show the address that the guests gave?

Mr. Barnhorst.

We always ask for an address, try to get an address from them. Occasionally we don't. Occasionally they just sort of don't put it on "there and you say, "Well, I would like to have an address on there." And they will say, "I plan to stay here." It should:Show an address on there of some kind.

Mr. Jenner.

And among the papers I have asked to have photostated will

that appear?