Mrs. Garner.

try to tell you hello when he wasn't there, but if he was there like they was sitting on the steps or something, or they would go through the drive and he was there, she wouldn't even look at you.

Mr. Liebeler.

She was more friendly and outgoing when Oswald wasn't there?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes; when he was there, she wouldn't have nothing to say.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever see a rifle or gun of any kind in the apartment, or around the apartment?

Mrs. Garner.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Or the station wagon, or just anywhere?

Mrs. Garner.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

You never had any reason to believe that Oswald had a rifle in his possession?

Mrs. Garner.

No; I never knew about that, never saw anything looked like a gun or anything like that. Like I said, they have asked me that so many times before, and they just packed this station wagon and if he had a gun I don't guess he put it where anybody could see it, and whatever was in the station wagon could have been, I mean anything with value, because they took a few days packing it to leave and it sat out there at night on the street.

Mr. Liebeler.

Without locking, or do you know whether they locked the station wagon?

Mrs. Garner.

I don't know whether they locked it, but that don't do much good in this city. It don't do any good to lock your doors; what good does it do? I nail mine; that is better yet.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss with anybody besides Mr. Rogers whether or not Oswald left on the same day his wife did, or how he left?

Mrs. Garner.

Do you mean in the neighborhood?

Mr. Libeler.

Yes.

Mrs. Garner.

I never talked too much to them, you know, unless I might be talking to Miss Earner next door and said he might have left that same night or something like that, but that's about all.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was that Mrs. Earner?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mrs. Doris E. Earner?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

She lives at 4907 Magazine Street?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes; right next to Oswald's apartment, in other words, and their kitchen windows was even to each other, across from each other.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald get any mail that you know of while he lived in the apartment 4907 or 4905 Magazine Street?

Mrs. Garner.

Not that I know of. I never went around the mailboxes to find out that, never went around the mailbox to see what kind of mail, and after he left I checked the mailbox and my husband found a light and gas bill and sent it back to the company.

Mr. Liebeler.

I believe you said Oswald actually owed you about 2 weeks' rent when they left. Is that right?

Mrs. Garner.

Fifteen days, something like that, 2 or 3 weeks. I think it was 3 weeks' rent, because the last time when I sent my husband to see about the rent, I told him it was going to be 3 weeks, and, "You know he isn't going to catch up with that and pay another month's rent and stay here by himself."

Mr. Liebeler.

He moved in on the 9th of May; is that right?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And he left about the 22d of September or the 23d?

Mrs. Garner.

About the 22d or 23d.

Mr. Libeler.

So he would have had to pay up the rent through the 9th of September?

Mrs. Garner.

Through the 9th, the 9th of September; that was when.

Mr. Liebeler.

That was when the rent came due again?

Mrs. Garner.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

And he paid his rent for the month?

Mrs. Garner.

You see, he was paid up to the 9th of September.

Mr. Liebeler.

He was paid through the 9th of September?