Mrs. Garner.

No; she never said her name and I didn't ask her, but I know she was a middle-aged woman in about her middle fifties or late fifties, well kept, reddish looking hair with a ball in the back, and she wore glasses; a well kept woman.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did they say specifically they had stopped at your place because they had seen the sign advertising the apartment for rent?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes; the sign, yes. She took him riding and seen the sign out.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember any other conversation with either Oswald or this lady that first time you met Oswald?

Mrs. Garner.

No; that is about all, because then they left.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald move back to the apartment, or move into the apartment, before his wife came or did they come together and move in together?

Mrs. Garner.

No; he was in there a couple of days before she came.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember exactly when he moved in? Did he come back later on the 9th, or did he come on the 10th?

Mrs. Garner.

The next day, the next evening.

Mr. Liebeler.

The next day. He moved in the next evening?

Mrs. Garner.

The next evening.

Mr. Liebeler.

That would have been Friday the 10th?

Mrs. Garner.

I don't know if he stayed there, but he was there.

Mr. Liebeler.

He did move some of his belongings in; is that correct?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you notice anything about his belongings, what kind of stuff he had?

Mrs. Garner.

I didn't see that. I. didn't see anything of that.

Mr. Liebeler.

You didn't see any suitcases he might have had?

Mrs. Garner.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember when his wife came?

Mrs. Garner.

That weekend; on that Sunday. That was a Sunday.

Mr. Liebeler.

How did she arrive

Mrs. Garner.

In this station wagon, that lady from Texas, that it had a Texas license, blue and tan station wagon or blue and white, something like that, and she also stayed a few days then when she brought the wife in, she stayed at least a week.

Mr. Liebeler.

This was a woman from Texas?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Whom you later learned was named Mrs. Paine? Is that correct?

Mrs. Garner.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did you notice how many people there were in the station wagon when it arrived?

Mrs. Garner.

No; I really didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you notice how many----

Mrs. Garner.

In fact, I didn't see the station wagon when it arrived; I didn't see it until the next day. I saw it parked out there with the Texas license and figured, you know, she had come in, his wife, because that is where he told me she was coming from, Texas.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you later learn how many people were in the apartment, or came in the station wagon?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes; when my husband talked to Mrs. Paine outside, he told me she had two little girls.

Mr. Liebeler.

And did Oswald himself have a little girl?

Mrs. Garner.

A little girl, June.

Mr. Liebeler.

And Oswald's wife?

Mrs. Garner.

Yes. I didn't know she was in a family way. I didn't know she was going to have another baby when she rented the apartment, because when I first saw her she didn't look that way to me.

Mr. Liebeler.

You say Mrs. Paine stayed in the apartment about a week. Did you have any conversation with her during that time?

Mrs. Garner.

No; I never even saw the lady. I never saw her. I couldn't tell you what she looked like. My husband saw her.