Mr. Glover.

fact she had majored in Russian in school, or knew Russian very well, and De Mohrenschildt's wife Jeanne, was trying to find someone who could converse with her, and I thought I would tell Ruth Paine about her, maybe she would be interested in talking with this woman. So I invited her, and she said she would be interested. That is the explanation of how she came.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you tell Ruth Paine about the Oswalds, to the extent that you knew about them at that time?

Mr. Glover.

I am sure I did.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she indicate whether she had any acquaintance or knowledge of the Oswalds?

Mr. Glover.

Well, it never occurred to me to question this until it was brought up by the FBI. As far as I know, this was completely new to her.

Mr. Jenner.

Your reaction at that time, in any event, was, as far as Mrs. Paine is concerned, your knowledge of her, she knew nothing about the Oswalds?

Mr. Glover.

That's right, completely new to her. Dick Pierce came. At the time, Dick kept company with a girl who works at the laboratory, Betty MacDonald, and she came along. I believe he invited her to come.

Mr. Glover.

No; she did not.

Mr. Jenner.

All right, then you had Pierce accompanied by Betty MacDonald?

Mr. Glover.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

And you had Ruth Paine. Was she accompanied by her husband?

Mr. Glover.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

She was accompanied by her husband on that occasion?

Mr. Glover.

I am pretty sure that he was there. Again I am not a hundred percent sure. I think we talked about this, the three of us, that were living together. I am sure he was there.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you aware that Mrs. Paine and her husband were separated?

Mr. Glover.

I was.

Mr. Jenner.

As of that time?

Mr. Glover.

I knew about that situation; yes. I don't think I invited him particularly, although I may have mentioned him, but I invited her because of the Russian.
Norm Fredricksen was in the office next to me, and I told him about the situation and asked him if he would be interested in coming, and he said he would come and he came.

Mr. Jenner.

Is he a married man?

Mr. Glover.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he bring Mrs. Fredricksen?

Mr. Glover.

He brought Mrs. Fredricksen; yes, sir. I had the impression at that time that Norm had been the most studious of the three that had taken Russian and he was continuing. He was going to graduate school and he wanted to make it a major language. At least that was the motive he presented to me. I was interested in someone who could speak Russian and could hear both these people talk, so I invited him.
I think that is all the people that were there. I know that when I talked to the FBI, I omitted Betty MacDonald's name in my statement.

Mr. Jenner.

At least for the moment this exhausts your recollection as to who attended your party?

Mr. Glover.

I believe so. I don't call it a party.

Mr. Jenner.

I think you mentioned the De Mohrenschildts. Did they drop in?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; for a few minutes, and went somewhere else. They were going somewhere.

Mr. Jenner.

Did the discussion take place were there any discussions during the course of that evening with Lee Oswald which dealt with his political views?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; there were discussions.

Mr. Glover.

Again I have to give an over-all impression I got. This may be partly as a result of questioning from some of the people present, but among the things that came out was that, and again I mentioned this before in connection with the other meeting, it is an over-all impression--he was apparently a Marxist.