Mrs. Tobias.

behind an apartment building on Elsbeth, just one building behind that apartment building on Elsbeth.

Mr. Jenner.

About how far away from where you are?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, it wouldn't be a block, it wouldn't be a good block--probably about half a block.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any conversation with you or your husband as to why they were moving?

Mrs. Tobias.

May I tell you?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; please do.

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, they fought so much.

Mr. Jenner.

They fought so much.

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes--they seemed to disagree and they didn't get along so good and the tenants would come and tell my husband that they kept them awake and the baby Cried so much and that he could hear them falling down as if Mrs. Oswald was hitting the floor, so my husband went over and he said he was sorry but there was nothing going on and that everything was okay and we had one tenant over him--nobody has been able to contact her either--and she came over, and she said, "Mr. Tobias, I think he has made a new opening down there." She said, "I think he's put her right through there." d he did break a window-- my husband had to fix that.

Mr. Jenner.

This was a pane of glass in the back door?

Mrs. Tobias.

In there going t into the hall, out of their back kitchen, going into that little hall going outside.

Mr. Jenner.

Your husband ascertained what?

Mrs. Tobias.

He had to put in a new pane.

Mr. Jenner.

Why?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, they knocked it out--I guess from fighting--we don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

You were't there?

Mrs. Tobias.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

d your husband wasn't there?

Mrs. Tobias.

They had come after us----

Mr. Jenner.

You mean the tenants had come after you?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, yes; they said they could hear glass falling and evidently they had put a baby blanket there a baby blanket was all over it, tacked do over the window.

Mr. Jenner.

The pane of glass in the d r was broken and they had tacked a baby blanket over the broken glass?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes, all the way around it--they had quite a large blanket and they put that around it, so my husband told them if they didn't straighten up or, you know, they were so annoying that the other people had to rest too, that he was sorry but they would have to find another place.

Mr. Jenner.

And it was shortly after at that they left?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; shortly after that they moved in over on Neely.

Mr. Jenner.

During this period that they lived there from the 3d of November 1962, to the 3d of March 1963, did you become better acquaint with Mrs. Oswald?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes. Now, Mrs. Oswald would come in my house quite frequently.

Mr. Jenner.

She would?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; she seemed very lonesome, and she would be standing out in the patio we were talking about, and right up at my walkway into the hallway, and I asked her if she didn't want to come in and she would say "Yes," and so she and the baby came in, but she always would just smile.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she speak with you?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, I was going to tell you--the first time she came in I said, "Your husband says you are Czech," and she began to shake her head--no.

Mr. Jenner.

She shook her head in the negative?

Mrs. Tobias.

She said, "No," and then she told me that.

Mr. Jenner.

What did she say?

Mrs. Tobias.

She said she was Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

She said that Russian?

Mrs. Tobias.

No; she said that in English, but she said, "My husband said it