Mr. Jenner.

On the second occasion?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes---he didn't use English.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she speak to that person also?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, if it's the one that called, she did, she talked for a second.

Mr. Jenner.

You have told me at she talked at the time of the first telephone call?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes--no; not the second time, I don't t she talked the second time.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, I'll ask you some technical things--was he a good tenant in the sense that he paid his rent?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; he paid his rent in advance.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he pay it promptly?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; now, you'll have to look here--my husband has got all that marked--later you can see that, but the last month- ---

Mr. Jenner.

Which was when?

Mr. Tobias.

It would have been--he paid--he moved in November--D ember, January, February, and he stayed until March the 3d.

Mr. Jenner.

March the 3d, 1963?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right and then he lacked, I think, $8 b a e I have heard him check it so many times.

Mr. Jenner.

He lacked $8?

Mrs. Tobias.

I think that is what it is I would have to look in here. My husband has it marked.

Mr. Jenner.

Go ahead and look. When you say you are looking in here--you are looking in your records of receipts?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

That's your original record?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; is is the first one.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me may I ask you a few questions about at--you keep a record of all receipts?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, yes; we have one they get one and the owner gets one.

Mr. Jenner.

When a rent payment is made, you make an entry in the book you have before you of having received a certain amount of money. It's in duplicate or triplicate. the tenant gets a copy of the receipt, you retain one in your book and you send one of the owners of the building?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, she gets the name of it and I think this is the other one--my husband has it marked here, so that every time they would come out they would have a lot of trouble looking and let me see, now--yes, he paid--he lacked $8--the balance.

Mr. Jenner.

Explain to me what you mean by his lacking a balance?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, he paid the $68 when he came at the regular date, and then the 8th--that would be the 2d and the 8th he came back and paid the other $8 and here is the beginning--if you would like to check them.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it, the, is what you mean is at for the month of February, he paid first $60?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes right.

Mr. Jenner.

So, he was $8 in arrears at that time?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And he made that up--he paid the $8 at a later date?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes ; that's the receipt there.

Mr. Jenner.

In fact, on the 8th of February 1963?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

That's receipt number 7611, which I have before me, is the receipt which you gave for at final payment--the second installment?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes, sir; that's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you have the initial receipt, do you?

Mrs. Tobias.

The beginning--you mean?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; here's where when he moved in up here.

Mr. Jenner.

And that is receipt number 0125, it is dated November that's the deposit?