Mr. Jenner.

of Oswald was? Let's say, as of November 21, 1963? I am not thinking in terms that you thought about him on that day, but I am trying to fix a cutoff period.

Mr. Glover.

Well, I came to the conclusion that he was, in the first place, obviously a fellow who was not satisfied with anything. He was not satisfied with what was in this country originally. He was not satisfied with the life in Russia. And he was not adjusting at all when he came back, so he was very maladjusted.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you had the impression that, or did you have the impression that he was generally a maladjusted person?

Mr. Glover.

Well, certainly from his whole situation I would conclude that he was maladjusted. In the course of fitting into a social and political group at all, he didn't adjust, didn't fit in.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you had the impression then that he was not a person of sufficient education with background or capacity, for example, for travel or to become a part of the group strata of society in which you moved?

Mr. Glover.

Oh, yes; I had the impression that he did not have a capacity to do that. My best word to describe him, my own personal word is that he was a ne'er-do-well. He did not adjust anywhere. He obviously didn't get along with his wife. He was very----

Mr. Jenner.

Was that obvious to you in her presence when you saw him in her presence?

Mr. Glover.

No; it was not obvious. This was only obvious from the description the De Mohrenschildts gave, but I still think this is a very important thing. I don't judge another person by the detailed things he says. I judge a person by the whole style of his life. This includes his relationship to other people, like his wife.

Mr. Jenner.

I agree. The reason I pressed you again there was to bring out whether you were relying entirely on what the De Mohrenschildts said to you, or whether you were also relying on your contacts with the Oswalds and the general reputation in that community in which you lived in regard to that.
They had views towards the Oswalds, and when I say community, I mean a circle of people.

Mr. Glover.

Yes. Well, I have to admit that I have no direct evidence of the two Oswalds having trouble, but it was mentioned by the De Mohrenschildts, and I don't know whether by anyone else, that they didn't get along. And that fact also, along with this, would fit into the picture, as I learned later, he lost his job here in Dallas. And he had apparently lost his job in Fort Worth, and this added to the picture of someone who wasn't able to adjust And such people who cannot adjust in their own work are very likely to be people who are not happy in their homelife and take it out on people in the homelife.
This is the inference I gave, and the only evidence I have is what De Mohrenschildt told me about that. I cannot say that I observed the Oswalds being antagonistic to each other.

Mr. Jenner.

Now this first occasion the was an evening at the De Mohrenschildts, that he called you up without you having any prior notice, that the Oswalds were going to be there, and you went over and met them?

Mr. Glover.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

You knew in advance?

Mr. Glover.

I believe they said when they called that these people were going to be there. I don't know how much notice they gave.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything about which you haven't testified that struck you about the Oswalds on that occasion?

Mr. Glover.

No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he speak Russian during the course of the evening?

Mr. Glover.

I'm not sure.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Or at least a language that was not English?

Mr. Glover.

I really couldn't be sure on that point.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she take part in the conversation to any extent?

Mr. Glover.

Well, she never did take part in the conversation very much.

Mr. Jenner.

When was the last occasion you saw the Oswalds?