What is his name?
Mr. LE BLANC. Well, the engineer is Emmett Barbe---I think you all have a statement from him--and then the other boy was Arturo Rodriguez.

Mr. Liebeler.

Of Mexican or Puerto Rican background?
Mr. LE BLANC. He is Mexican, I think.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know whether Oswald was associated with Rodriguez outside of the plant at all?
Mr. LE BLANC. No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't have any way of knowing?
Mr. LE BLANC. No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald ever talk to you about his family?
Mr. LE BLANC. No; that was something he very seldom talked about, and myself and the engineer, Emmett Barbe, we always were talking about our families. He had quite a bit of sickness and I had quite a bit of sickness, and a lot of times we would be talking about our families and kids, and Oswald, he never would bring in his family, and it was a good while after he was employed with us that I actually found out he was married, because I didn't think he was married because he never did talk about his wife or kids or nobody.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have a lunch break----
Mr. LE BLANC. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

During the day, you had a lunch break?
Mr. LE BLANC. We had 11 and 11:30. Now at that time I don't know whether we just had the 11:30 or we had two breaks--I can't recall--but I think it was two breaks, lunch breaks, 11 and 11:30.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald eat lunch with anybody? Do you remember?
Mr. LE BLANC. Not that I know of. He had never eaten with me, I know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where do you usually have lunch?
Mr. LE BLANC. Well, myself, I bring mine; but most of them that don't bring their lunch, they usually go down to the corner restaurant.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald bring his lunch, or did he eat in the restaurant?
Mr. LE BLANC. Well, no; I think he went down to the corner restaurant a lot of times.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is that Martin's Restaurant?
Mr. LE BLANC. Martin's; yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any idea what he used to have for lunch?
Mr. LE BLANC. No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any idea how much he spent for his lunch?
Mr. LE BLANC. No, Sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

What kind of a place is Martin's, a pretty inexpensive place or----
Mr. LE BLANC. It is a reasonable place for regular factory--most .all the factory workers around there eat there. It is pretty reasonable.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever form any opinion of Oswald? You mentioned that you thought he was probably a little bit of a crackpot or somewhat of a crackpot for playing this game with his fingers like he was shooting a gun, but just generally what did you think of this guy?
Mr. LE BLANC. I just--I used to always .think--I didn't know whether he was right or whether he had troubles on his mind or what. I mean, I couldn't actually figure what was actually wrong with him, because, I mean, we would go on break and sit on the driveway on the bench. Usually among the maintenance we always usually a lot of times sit together and we would talk over the job or something, but he would sit on the bench, and he looked like he would be staring into space, and sometimes you would think he was looking right at you, and if you would happen to go to say something, he wouldn't answer you. Looked like that is how far his mind was .

Mr. Liebeler.

He seemed to be thinking about something else?
Mr. LE BLANC. Yes; and looked like his mind was far away at all times.

Mr. Liebeler.

There weren't any of the men there that, as far as you knew, he ever really talked to----
Mr. LE BLANC. No.
Mr. LE LIEBELER, Or anyone he ever opened up to in anyway?
Mr. LE BLANC . No.

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