Mr. Ofstein.

but we are still not employing those techniques and I thought possibly that he might have also, as I have several times, come to read things about micro-film and, of course, you see it in these science fiction movies of space travel and so the use of microfilm, and I presumed this was along the me lines.

Mr. Jenner.

Did it ever arouse in you any alarm or any doubt?

Mr. Ofstein.

No, sir; I just thought it was possibly a passing piece of conversation.

Mr. Jenner.

Here again you didn't become suspicious or concerned?

Mr. Ofstein.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you speak to anybody about that incident?

Mr. Ofstein.

No, sir. After Oswald was released from employment, I did ask the recruiting sergeant for Army security here in town, who I was stationed with overseas, about the possibility of getting the FBI to run a routine check on him because of the fact that I have done security work, and the. fact that I also---this was just before I wrote the letter to Oswald inviting him and his wife over-- -due to the fact that I wanted to keep my record clean well, I didn't suspect him as being a spy or anything like that--I just wanted to make sure I as with the right company, and he told me that it was probably nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

You wanted to inquire not only with respect to him but also whether you were with the right company?

Mr. Ofstein.

Well, sir, I wouldn't jeopardize losing. any..chance of getting a security clearance at anytime I needed it.

Mr. Jenner.

And, Sergeant Crozier, did you say his name was---I believe it is Sergeant Geiger.

Mr. Ofstein.

His first name is Tom---I can't remember his last name now.

Mr. Jenner.

Or, is it Kriegler?

Mr. Ofstein.

Kriegler yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

He had been in the service with you, you had served together?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And, he reassured you?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir; he said that it was probably nothing to- worry about.

Mr. Jenner.

When you discussed this Russian language, newspaper with Oswald, was there anything said as to the source of the paper?

Mr. Ofstein.

Not immediately. I believe it was possibly about 2 months before he left I asked him where he got the paper and I said that I wanted to find a little more up-to-date material to study Russian with, than what you find in the library, and that I had looked around town and on the newsstands that I saw handling them Russian language newspapers and he mentioned that he got it from a firm in New York or Washington Victor A. Kamkin.

Mr. Jenner.

That's K-a-m-k-i-n [spelling]?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And, he gave you the address in New York City?

Mr. Ofstein.

It was New York or Washington I don't know for certain. I made an error in my report to the FBI to that respect.

Mr. Jenner.

The fact is you were uncertain, but you indicated to the FBI more positively?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir; whenever the agent came to my home and picked up the materials, the address was there and we clarified that.

Mr. Jenner.

What materials did he pick up?

Mr. Ofstein.

Well, Lee Oswald had given me a Russian newspaper, "The Soviet White Russian," and a couple of magazines---the one being a magazine newspaper type thing and one a magazine, and the FBI agent wanted these---one of them had his handwriting on the back.

Mr. Jenner.

And, those were turned over to the FBI?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did the FBI approach you or did you approach the FBI?

Mr. Ofstein.

They approached me.

Mr. Jenner.

When was that?

Mr. Ofstein.

I believe it was sometime in December of last year.

Mr. Jenner.

Of 1963?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.