Mr. Ofstein.

He seemed to usually arrive on time and expressed a desire to work overtime if he was needed, except during the week at times there were periods when he said he had to go to school and he would leave with some books, I believe they were typing books from the library, and he mentioned that he was going to Crozier Tech at night, and I believe this was one night a week or two at the most. Other than that, he was there every day, the best I recall, and he did work one Saturday.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he have difficulty obtaining Saturday work from the company?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Why?

Mr. Ofstein.

Well, they go on an experience and seniority basis as to overtime. The people with more seniority have a choice as to whether .they want to work or not and usually they do.

Mr. Jenner.

To make that extra money?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And also, does skill have anything to do with it--you mentioned experience---you meant to include in that experience his skill for the level of attainment?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER, And. he had not reached the point at which all of these factors combined enabled ,him to command or be reasonably fortunate in respect to having overtime work?

Mr. Ofstein.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Had your skills reached the point at which you had overtime work on Saturday when you sought it?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

What about his aptitudes with respect to the work for which he was being trained?

Mr. Ofstein.

He always strived to try to do good. It seemed like he was fast, but I noticed that quite a few of his jobs that he did perform did come back within a normal working day.

Mr. Jenner.

More than the normal?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir; I would say so.

Mr. Jenner.

There are errors always made, I suppose, by everybody?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

But your impression is •that his percentage of error was above average?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion of that in and among your fellow workers and with Mr. Graef?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes; it was battered around for quite awhile exactly how long, I don't know. About the way that he was turning out a lot of work, because it-had to be redone, therefore wasting company materials.

Mr. Jenner.

And time?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir; and they had decided, I believe, it must have been a month before they finally let him go--to dismiss him.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that the general scuttlebutt around the place?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

That he was reaching the end of his employment?

Mr. Ofstein.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did ever the occasion. arise when you learned anything with respect to whether he was ever able to operate an automobile or ever owned one or got in one to drive it?

Mr. Ofstein.

No, sir; every time I saw him on the street coming down, this way after work he was walking.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he ever bring any of these books to work--books as distinguished from newspapers?

Mr. Ofstein.

I don't recall if he did or not, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it a Russian newspaper that elicited this discussion between you as to the use of the Russian language, or was it a book?

Mr. Ofstein.

It was a newspaper.