Mr. Graef.

Yes; they are.

Mr. Jenner.

There is nothing unusual, extraordinary or out of line?

Mr. Graef.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

With respect to the manner in which and the circumstances under which Commission Exhibit 427 came into existence and was maintained?

Mr. Jenner.

And to the best of your knowledge, information and belief, is this card now in the same condition it was as of the date of termination of employment of Lee Harvey Oswald, except for the pencil notation in the extreme bottom right hand portion of the card on its face and in which appeared in an encirclement, the letter "D" and the figure "11"?

Mr. Graef.

To the best of my knowledge, it is. I haven't seen the card since I turned it into the office at the time that he was employed, so the handwriting that says, "Terminated," there, and that date I haven't seen--I mean whether the card has been altered or not I don't know, because, of course, I didn't see it at any time after that date.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean after the date terminated 4-6-63?

Mr. Graef.

Yes; after "terminated" was written there. I haven't actually seen the card since the time that he was employed, roughly, since he wrote the card out and handed it to me and I turned it into the front office. To the best of my recollection that's the last time I have seen that.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you do recall that this card, at least to the extent of the name, Lee Harvey Oswald, in block printing and your handwriting of the date October 12, 1962---that was filled out to that extent at least in your presence?

Mr. Graef.

Mainly, yes. I mean, I may have been in the department and doing some other tasks, but he sat down and filled it out. I gave it to him and he sat down somewhere and filled it out and I may have been moving around somewhere. I didn't actually watch him write it out word for word and line for line. The reason this October 12 is in my handwriting--ordinarily the employee fills ,that out.

Mr. Jenner.

That appears opposite the printed words, "Date Employed"?

Mr. Graef.

Yes; ordinarily, the employee will go ahead and fill that date in also, but he had forgotten to and this was probably filled out a few days after he was employed.

Mr. Jenner.

But that is in your handwriting?

Mr. Graef.

But that is in my handwriting. I vaguely recall that he had not filled that in and I said something, "I'll save you the trouble," and then I wrote that in.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. I offer in evidence as Commission Exhibit No. 427, the employee identification questionnaire of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall Co. which has now been identified.
How long have you been employed by Jaggars-Chile-Stovall?

Mr. Graef.

Approximately 11 or 12--I've almost forgotten---it seems it was either 1952 or 1953, I came with them.

Mr. Jenner.

Is this an old Dallas firm?

Mr. Graef.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

By reputation, how long has it been around here?

Mr. Graef.

I believe about since 1922.

Mr. Jenner.

Does this company do any lithography?

Mr. Graef.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell us in general, apart from your particular interests and work in the company, what in general does the company do?

Mr. Graef.

We set type. We have an enormous inventory of all kinds of type faces, all designs, for example, scripts-- roman letters, sans serif faces--an enormous repertoire of styles from which advertising agencies and artists can choose to make up advertisements for headlines or body copy. This basically is our biggest function. We don't do any printing.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you make mats?

Mr. Graef.

Yes; it's a rather complete service. We can take an advertisement from the very beginning and actually carry it all the way through to the end, to the point where we mail the mats to the newspapers for insertion, but we don't do any printing as such, of any kind.