Mr. Statman.

Okay, I guess that's all right--I don't know.' Actually, our records are supposed to be confidential and we are supposed to have a court order before we release them, but I will just leave them with you and if I get in trouble I'll come to see you.

Mr. Jenner.

If you get in any trouble about them, we will see that they are returned and we will make copies for you, but, of course, you can see they are hard to duplicate.

Mr. Statman.

Are you going to be in town for a few days?

Mr. Jenner.

I'll be in town tomorrow and I'll be back next week. There will be members of the legal staff here all the time.

Mr. Statman.

Fine. All right, I'm just going to leave these with you. If something comes up I might have to solicit your aid.

Mr. Jenner.

You've got a certified record of the fact you left them here.

Mr. Statman.

No; I don't mean that. I might should not have released these to you without authorization from Austin, but if that comes up, you look like a pretty good lawyer and you might be able to bring us out of it.

Mr. Davis.

Yes; if you get locked up, we will spring you out.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Davis is from the Texas attorney general's office.

Mr. Statman.

I'm not trying to be negative about this, but you know, when you deal with the State, sometimes if you don't follow the protocol there is difficulty.

Mr. Davis.

If you have any question on it I would be glad to talk with them and tell them that we have made a formal request of you to leave them with us.

Mr. Statman.

All right, fine. Is that all?

Mr. Jenner.

That's all. Thank you very much. If you want to read this over, you may.

Mr. Statman.

No; that's all right.

Mr. Jenner.

And you waive signature too?

Mr. Statman.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

All right, thank you very much. You have been very helpful.

Mr. Davis.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Statman.

All right, I'm glad I could help.

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Tommy Bargas

Testimony of Tommy Bargas

The testimony of Tommy Bargas was taken at 11:35 a.m., on March 30, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex. by Mr. Albert E. Jenner, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Robert T. Davis, assistant attorney general of Texas, was present.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Bargas, do you swear that in the deposition I am about to take of you that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Mr. Bargas.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Will you state your name, please?

Mr. Bargas.

Tommy Bargas, B-a-r-g-a-s [spelling].

Mr. Jenner.

And where do you live?

Mr. Bargas.

301 East Drew, Fort Worth, Tex.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Bargas, did you receive recently a letter from Mr. Rankin, the general counsel for the Commission?

Mr. Bargas.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Is the letter asking you if you would appear and permit your deposition to be taken, with which was enclosed copies of Executive Order 11130, creating the Commission, and of Senate Joint Resolution 137, authorizing the President to appoint and create the Commission, and also a copy of the rules of procedure of the Commission for the questioning of witnesses by members of the staff of the Commission?

Mr. Bargas.

Yes.