Mr. Glover.

and were living in Fort Worth, and they were having trouble getting along, the Oswalds were.

Mr. Jenner.

Getting along with each other?

Mr. Glover.

Getting along with each other.

Mr. Jenner.

You remember that distinctly?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; I remember that very distinctly, because they were trying to find a place for Marina to stay.

Mr. Jenner.

You learned all this through conversations with the De Mohrenschildts?

Mr. Glover.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that correct?

Mr. Glover.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And either or both of them told you that the Oswalds were not getting along?

Mr. Glover.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And that they were seeking what for them?

Mr. Glover.

They were seeking a place particularly for Marina to stay. She had a baby. And seeking a place for her to stay where she could just get a living, because apparently her husband didn't get along with her, Lee Oswald didn't get along, and I am not sure whether he had lost his job or something. It was suggested it was financial difficulties, the main thing, they didn't get along, and were trying to find a place for her where she could live.

Mr. Jenner.

Did either of the De Mohrenschildts speak Russian?

Mr. Glover.

So far as I know, both of them spoke Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

In your presence?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; spoke Russian, what I assumed to be Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

What is your command, if any, of the Russian language?

Mr. Glover.

Well, I know "Da," but I know very little about it. I have started to study Russian in connection with scientific work, because it is very valuable to be able to speak Russian, and I have always wanted to learn to speak Russian, but somehow I never got to do this. It is very slight, actually, and they both, as far as I know, spoke Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

Now tell us what the occasion was, how it came about that you met Marina on this first occasion?

Mr. Glover.

Well, I am not sure again as to all the details, but I believe that it was this way. That they told about her and that, I came over there one night when she was there. I might have been invited to dinner when she was there, or I might have just come over when she was there, and they called me during the day and said, "Glover, come over and meet this woman."

Mr. Jenner.

Your recollection is that either George or Jeanne called you and asked you to come over to their home to meet Marina?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; I am quite sure that he invited me to come over there, because that is usually the way. They were always inviting me to come over.

Mr. Jenner.

And your impression, this was an evening or during the daytime?

Mr. Glover.

Well, I couldn't be sure, because she would sometimes come and stay for a day. It might be in the evening or it might have been on a weekend during the daytime. My impression was, it was in the evening.

Mr. Jenner.

But your impression also was that this time that she had been invited by them on occasions prior to this particular one?

Mr. Glover.

I am not sure whether they had invited her prior or not.

Mr. Jenner.

I'm just asking you what your impression was at that time.

Mr. Glover.

At that time that I first saw her?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; as to whether she had been there to visit the De Mohrenschildts.

Mr. Glover.

My impression was that she probably had, but I really couldn't be sure about that.

Mr. Jenner.

Anything said that evening indicating how she had reached the De Mohrenschildt's home?

Mr. Glover.

You mean just physically brought there?

Mr. Jenner.

Had they, the De Mohrenschildts gone to pick her up? Had she gotten there by bus herself? Had she gotton a cab, or how did she get there?

Mr. Glover.

I don't remember specifically how she had been brought there.