Mr. Jenner.

While I am thinking about it, who is in charge of the Fort Worth office. I can call on there tomorrow?

Mr. Statman.

Krizan, he is the District Director, K-r-i-z-a-n [spelling]. That is his last name. Wayland is his first name. Now we might have the same thing in Fort Worth that we are doing here. I think we had some dealings with him in Fort-Worth.
Now, along with this should be his counseling card, which would indicate the type of counseling and any responses. I can't find that; I don't know--I know the FBI man has it. We might not have made a picture of it or it might have gotten lost, but again, Helen remembers enough about it to give you the pertinent details of it. Ask her about the E-41 or the counseling card. All right, now, here is where it gets a little complicated.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, we are going to a third document?

Mr. Statman.

The third document is----

Mr. Jenner.

Is that a card also?

Mr. Statman.

Yes; this a card.

Mr. Jenner.

It is a folded card?

Mr. Statman.

Yes; it folds.

Mr. Jenner.

It is a letter-size sheet. It is marked Cunningham Exhibit No. 3. Would you put the two sheets in the position they would be in with the card? [The original card, of which Cunningham Exhibit No. 3 is a copy, is in evidence as Cunningham Exhibit No. 3-A.]

Mr. Statman.

I'm trying to. This isn't one of our normal documents, as I said, this is an interstate document. You know, there is a different address on the test-record card than on the application card and you may want to bring that out.

Mr. Jenner.

I do want to bring that out; the address on the aptitude test card, I see, is 3519 Fairmount in Dallas.

Mr. Statman.

Okay. I'm sorry; I should have mentioned that to you before.

Mr. Jenner.

Opposite the word "comments" on the face of the card----

Mr. Statman.

That's G.A.T.B. in Fort Worth, June 1962, so that indicates that he had had this complete G.A.T.B. given in Fort Worth in 1962, and maybe in order not to be redundant, they might have sent and gotten; yes, in fact, I know they did because you see---you don't have any indication here of the make-up, so these scores and patterns were obtained from the Fort Worth office.

Mr. Jenner.

The date, October 10, 1962, appearing on the reverse of the card lettered "individual aptitude tests" would, I take it, in view of what you have now said, be the date on which the information was obtained from the Fort Worth office?

Mr. Statman.

Well, no; the G.A.T.B. in Fort Worth, June 1962---that's when he took it.

Mr. Jenner.

There is another date below that.

Mr. Statman.

No; you see, all this dealings has been in 1963, hasn't it? This 1962 would probably indicate the Fort Worth action, wouldn't it?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, what I was trying to attempt to do was bring it out.

Mr. Statman.

Well, everything else we have done is in 1963, so we would have to ascertain here or assume that this 10- 10-62 was the date that the G.A.T.B. was administered to him in Fort Worth. No; that couldn't be right either, because June wouldn't be 1962.

Mr. Jenner.

He came to this country on June 12, 1962.

Mr. Statman.

Well, maybe this is a mistake and it should have been 10-10-63. That would be more than likely the dates, wouldn't it?

Mr. Jenner.

Possibly.

Mr. Statman.

You see, everything else we have on the application that indicates 10-10-63, wouldn't it? In other words, we have had no dealings with him back in 1962, have we?

Mr. Jenner.

Not in the Dallas office.

Mr. Statman.

No, no; again, I guess you would have to postulate that that should be 10-10-63. In other words, on 10- 10-63, they recorded this information from the Fort Worth records.

Mr. Jenner.

Taking you back to the previous exhibit, I direct your attention to a date of 10-10-62, appearing ---