(Testimony of Irving Statman)
Mr. Statman.
Okay. The next job chronologically was [reading] the William B. Rilly Co. Do you want that address?
Mr. Jenner.
If you please.
Mr. Statman.
640 Magazine Street, New Orleans, La. This Rilly is R-i-l-l-y (spelling), William B. Rilly, and this was typographical and that was the nature of the business; length of job 4 months; date ended--7/63; rate of pay--$1.50.
As far as job descriptions, he just said "Photography."
Now, the reason for leaving on both of these jobs was, "laid off."
Then, he gives the U.S. Marine Corps, radar--April--2 years--1959. That was his discharge.
Then, also, we have a summary of other work history. But this is a work history that might be pertinent, but he hasn't spent too much time on.
Let's go back up on the fold, under "identifying information," and there is an occupational title and a cede. The occupational title listed, "Routine clerical work." The code is 1X49.
This "X" indicates that he has not had any experience, and this type of work is an entry work. In other words, it is work that he might be interested in and proficient in if he could get training in it. In other words, they deemed that he was not really qualified for anything, and when you have somebody without any apparent qualifications you try to determine some sort of entry job.
Mr. Jenner.
Therefore, I conclude do I correctly--that from this, the interviewer concluded this man had no particular skills or qualifications.
Mr. Statman.
No; this interviewer ascertained that this individual did not have a definitive type occupation, so he was sent to the counselor and after the counselor counseled and tested Oswald, then it was ascertained that this area of work would probably be the most conducive for him.
You see, that's why he was sent to the counselor, because the interviewer could not make a definitive description or a judgment on his work. That's where our counselor comes in.
Now, we are on the back. Under "miscellaneous" we had--shoe salesman, 4 months, New Orleans, La.; general office work- -1 year, New Orleans, La., 1961. That concludes the information on the hack.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, we turn to the inside.
Mr. Statman.
Right. On the inside are his "conditions affecting employment?" That would be anything that in any way could, as the statement says, affect employment adversely or benignly. On this is first listed, "Bus transportation." It indicates that if a Job required a car, he couldn't go.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, I am interested in that--that is a normal inquiry made, is it, of persons seeking employment?
Mr. Statman.
Yes; because there are certain geographical areas in Dallas that are not accessible by bus transportation, so when we get an order in this area we know that the applicant has to have his own transportation or he wouldn't be readily available for the job.
Mr. Jenner.
Does it mean not only that he does not have an automobile to drive, but that he is unable to drive one, even if one is furnished?
Mr. Statman.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
It means only that he does not have that type of transportation available?
Mr. Statman.
No; this bus transportation means only that in the event that he would get a Job, he would have to get to the job by bus transportation.
Mr. Jenner.
All right.
Mr. Statman.
There is no indication that he can't get a car at a later date?
Mr. Jenner.
There is no indication by that in what I am interested, of whether he is able or not able to drive an automobile.
Mr. Statman.
No; it Just describes the motor transportation that he would have to employ in commuting to his work.
Now, the next remark is "Outstanding verbal and clerical work." Now, that was taken off of the G.A.T.B., which we will get into in a minute.
In other words, it indicated that he had a great aptitude for vocabulary and also for clerical type work. This is ascertained off of his tests.
Mr. Jenner.
All right.
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